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craig david 03-02-13 14:50

Hard to put on centre stand.
 
I've just got a 2010 Tenere, it's got a centre stand which I think is a genuine Yamaha one.

It's not easy to put on the stand, I have all my weight on the foot prong and it still needs a good haul on the pillion grab handle to get it up.

Are they all like this?

uberthumper 03-02-13 15:52

Yes.

Think of it as part of your fitness regime ;-)

maxwell123455 03-02-13 16:31

yep it's not the easiest due to the tall suspension. could be worse you could be trying to put a pan European on its centre stand, now that's hard

Fiddich 03-02-13 16:32

Grab the pillion footrest hanger instead of the seat handle - much easier!

Graham 03-02-13 16:46

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Originally Posted by maxwell123455 (Post 183840)
yep it's not the easiest due to the tall suspension. could be worse you could be trying to put a pan European on its centre stand, now that's hard

Or an FJR when you're a 10 stone weakling.

I put a SW Motech on the Tenere and was surprised to find I could get it up quite easily (especially with an empty tank).

wide 03-02-13 16:47

Weird as mine has got to be the easiest bike Ive ever had for this, can literally do it 1 handed

jimf 03-02-13 16:54

mine was easy to do until i lowered it, then it became a bit of an effort, when the bike is loaded up its a no go.

craig david 03-02-13 17:28

Strange. Mine is harder than a Pan or even a Goldwing. I'll try using the peg instead of the grab handle as suggested.

Pleiades 03-02-13 21:40

You�ll get a range of differing opinions on this subject (as you can see), because everyone�s a different size and shape! Bike setup varies massively too; if you�ve got an old saggy shock it�ll be harder, as with lowering links, conversely a new shock will make it easier. Even little things like fitting a 140 rear tyre will have a small, but positive effect. Then there are boxes, cases and luggage that all get in the way and add weight which makes life harder.

Mine was a pain in the arse with original shock, with a new shock and 15mm raising links it�s now a piece of pi55! Still find it a challenge with panniers on though, as the left hand one is right in the way of where you need to be to get your foot on the stand.

It�s all down to the �knack�, the little tricks, like Fiddich�s pulling on the pillion rest, but even that�s probably not ideal if you�re tall because you�ll do your back in stooping down! ;)

The best and easiest way will be the method you perfect yourself over time, picking up advice and tips along the way, but honing it to suit yourself and your bike through practice.

Black Dog 04-02-13 04:35

Get a piece of wood about 1/2" thick and cut a 45 deg bevel on one end. Put that behind the bike, roll the rear wheel onto it, and then put the bike on the stand. That's only of use on your own driveway, of course (unless you are happy to carry lengths of timber about with you) but it might help some of the time.

swanny199 04-02-13 05:07

only cure for that is some elbow grease, after a few times youl get the technique

Haakon 04-02-13 10:51

I had the same problem, to much heavy, so I just took it off. I have never missed it.

66T 06-02-13 11:48

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Originally Posted by Black Dog (Post 183865)
Get a piece of wood about 1/2" thick and cut a 45 deg bevel on one end. Put that behind the bike, roll the rear wheel onto it, and then put the bike on the stand. That's only of use on your own driveway, of course (unless you are happy to carry lengths of timber about with you) but it might help some of the time.

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+1

wide 06-02-13 20:35

jeez some of you guys need to get to a gym !!!!:angel9::Nurse_KGBJ5I:

SimonRoma 07-02-13 10:39

Haha my FJR fully laden with panniers and stuff was a killer too.....

coxwain 07-02-13 10:52

You bunch of wimps , get to the gym

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 07-02-13 11:28

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Originally Posted by coxwain (Post 184012)
You bunch of wimps , get to the gym

:003:

I've never had a problem, even fully loaded - although I use the pannier rails as a hold point. Arms straight, legs bent and push down on the stand, rather than lifting the bike with my arm. With the right method I can put my bike on it's center stand with slippers on (why would I do that ? - can't remember why now)

You may be trying to use your arms to lift the bike, rather than locking your arms and using your leg - it's subtle, but makes a big difference. Tall bikes do need a more refined action, and if you've never been shown properly, then you may have small areas where you can improve. It can help simply by watching someone (who finds it easy) and working out where the differences are

The distance between the stand and the grab rails is a relatively long way, which is why many people have no problem with low bike (your arms would be extended and so you naturally use your leg to provide the lift. You could use the rear hanger, but the this may put your back in a bad position.

Not sure if it is significant, but I removed the OE can, so I'm 5kg lighter at the rear, although I never had any issues before I changed the can.

Another very subtle consideration, the static sag on the rear shock. The OE spring (on the shock) sags considerably after a while (about 10 - 15k miles on mine), when I replaced the spring the rear end sat up in the region of 30-50mm. With the bike sitting lower to the ground, the effort needed to get the stand under the bike increases.

Alternatively.... there is always the gym !

Black Dog 07-02-13 13:22

Technique is vital, and I would agree completely that using your weight to push down is a lot more effective than using your muscles to pull up. Some of us have plenty of weight to assist, but muscle is more of a problem.

But the design of the stand is hugely important too. I had a Suzuki Bandit 1200 that rolled onto its stand like a dream. The tang on the stand was long and in exactly the right position, and all you had to do was put a bit of weight on it and the bike floated up. My 1300 Pan was a nightmare, Russian shot putters only, and all because the tang was badly positioned. They gave you a little fold-out handle which helped, but not much.

phil ten 07-02-13 13:37

what i find a ****** is loading up my bike while on the centre stand.

As soon as the roll bag goes on the back seat...the bike tips back onto the back wheel. getting it off the stand becomes quite hard :(


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