.: XT660.com - The #1 XT660 Resource :.

.: XT660.com - The #1 XT660 Resource :. ( https://www.xt660.com/index.php)
-   XT660Z Mods ( https://www.xt660.com/forumdisplay.php?f=165)
-   -   Luggage Top Plate in alu for XT660Z ( https://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=19616)

xphase 23-08-12 22:16

Luggage Top Plate in alu for XT660Z
 
Ok, I made a model after a couple of measurements and paper templates... :glasses2:

And this is what I come up to, please let me know what you think and if you have some improvement ideas that I could do! :icon_idea:

http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket/top_racket4_s.jpg
http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket/top_racket5_s.jpg
http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket/top_racket6_s.jpg
http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket/top_racket7_s.jpg

Osmund 24-08-12 07:42

Looks nice!!!
:045:

Mort 24-08-12 08:08

A work of art.:coastguard:

phil ten 24-08-12 09:05

Look greats.

Ive been doing the same thing just lately, just been mocking one up in carboard (used the touratech one as a starting point).

i want mine to support roll bags. so the main difference im going for over the touratech one is making it wider to help support the roll bag. Also making it slightly more of a square shape (apart from where it fits to the bike near the pillion seat)

suds750 24-08-12 17:47

If anyone could add a decent grab rail to one of these, I'd be seriously interested. The grab handles on the Ten are the main cause of complaint from both my wife and my son, so I need an alternative.

Metzy 27-08-12 06:29

Nice functional design, what thickness aluminium are you thinking of using? Id be keen on one.

Ni3ous 27-08-12 09:37

One practical advice, that I would like to have on such plate:
Make another hole in the most rear part of the plate in the middle. It is functional when using elastical straps or net. I like to attach it in the midle in the rear also, so I am sure nothing will get loose or lost when having luggage on that plate. I ussually put on top of dry bag my Teva sandals, plastic bottl of water... shirt or towel that can dry while riding...
Such stuff can slip back and fell off, that is less likely to happen if there is attachment on the rear also, not only on sides.

xphase 27-08-12 23:42

Quote:

If anyone could add a decent grab rail to one of these, I'd be seriously interested. The grab handles on the Ten are the main cause of complaint from both my wife and my son, so I need an alternative.
I'm sorry but I dont think that would happen, main reason is because I dont think there is a market for it. But to still your hunger, I have put three holes (made for M6) on each side that could be used for whatever you want. So if you want grab rails, you may put it there. (maybe in the future, I can help you doing two grab rails if you want to.... but I dont have the time right now.)

Quote:

Nice functional design, what thickness aluminium are you thinking of using? Id be keen on one.
I dont know yet, as thin as possible... I know the Touratech plate is 4mm. But 4-5mm I think would be good....

Quote:

One practical advice, that I would like to have on such plate:
Make another hole in the most rear part of the plate in the middle.
That's a good advice, would it be enough if I put some holes in the rear end of the plate?

************************************************** *******

Ok, I have made some minor changes on the plate...
Added some extra holes near the edge to be used with elastic straps, or whatever you want... (suds750 wanted some grab rails, and it could be used for that too.)
Reduced the number of slots from 4 to 3 on the angled part, to make it more stiffer than before!

BUT ALSO these holes is mounting ponts for a plate extensioner. That would be possible to use if riding alone and for longer distances or just if you dont want to use the side panniers but however want som more luggage capacity.
This is still just a sketch, I have not yet measured exactly how long or wide it would be... OR how I will solve the need of an support underneath the plate.
This extensioner would make the luggage area about 220% bigger compared to the smaller one.

What do you think about it, good or bad? :eusa_think:

The smaller standard size plate, but with added holes around and reduced slots... also changed the logotype to a more discreeter one!
http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket/top_racket8s.jpg

Plate extensioner...
http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket...widener_1s.jpg
http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket...widener_3s.jpg
http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket...widener_4s.jpg
http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket...widener_6s.jpg
http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket...widener_7s.jpg

Pleiades 28-08-12 00:02

I like it! :D

I'd thought long and hard about a rack for the pillion seat (yet done nothing about it!) and your extension idea is just the sort of thing I had in my mind. At the time I thought any rack could fix to the grab rail mountings...

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...ailfixings.jpg

...and then changing to longer bolts and making up a pair of tubular spacers or suitable brackets for support at the front?

:thumbsup: Keep up the good work buddy!

Ni3ous 28-08-12 20:42

Ok, holes are now better on the rear, just make sure they are big enough to fit some most standard used hooks on straps.
I like the rear hole on the extensioner more, than on base plate. Its more in the middle and bigger. I understand you want to keep some space for logo...

xphase 28-08-12 23:02

Pleiades:
Thats a good idea, those mounting points would probably be great! :)

Ni3ous
Hmm.... I think you're right, it would probably be better with a slot in the rear end of the plate instead of holes. And yes, I want some space for the logo...
But I did a small change, so now there is both. Check it out and tell me what you think....

http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket/top_racket9s.jpg

What do you think about the size?
http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket...cket_ver5S.JPG

spen 29-08-12 00:41

How much ??

xphase 29-08-12 13:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by spen (Post 178128)
How much ??

It's only a 3D model so I dont know yet.
But I hope under �50-60...

Fiddich 29-08-12 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 178054)
I like it! :D

I'd thought long and hard about a rack for the pillion seat (yet done nothing about it!) and your extension idea is just the sort of thing I had in my mind. At the time I thought any rack could fix to the grab rail mountings...

http://i864.photobucket.com/albums/a...ailfixings.jpg

...and then changing to longer bolts and making up a pair of tubular spacers or suitable brackets for support at the front?

:thumbsup: Keep up the good work buddy!

XPHASE/Pleiades

I would be a little bothered about having a thin edge (on the extension) behind my backside in case of an off. How about a folded edge much like the one on the rack but folded at 90 deg??:eusa_think:

xphase 29-08-12 15:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fiddich (Post 178164)
How about a folded edge much like the one on the rack but folded at 90 deg??:eusa_think:

I will look into that, but I want it as simple and cheap as possible, thats why there is no folded edge at all on the extender... Also I dont know yet exactly how long the extender will reach. As you say I dont want it to be to close to the driver. Partly because of the safety, and partly because it would be difficult to get on the bike if it is to close! :)

Ni3ous 29-08-12 20:41

Base plate is now perfect for me!

Extension plate could be wider if you put dry bag across, reason - not to sag on hot pipes. Just an idea. Maybe you can build wide tipe and long type of extension, so choice for all customers wishes.

xphase 30-08-12 14:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ni3ous (Post 178181)
Base plate is now perfect for me!

Extension plate could be wider if you put dry bag across, reason - not to sag on hot pipes. Just an idea. Maybe you can build wide tipe and long type of extension, so choice for all customers wishes.

Great!
No, I will only do one type of extension plate.... I will look into what size it would be soon! There will be some modifications on the length and width and also how it will be mounted!

Fozzer 30-08-12 14:57

There are some really talented people on here

Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2

xphase 30-08-12 17:46

Question, I will soon try to get a cost sheet for the luggage plate and the extender.

How many of you would be interested in one of these?

gregdobrynin 30-08-12 20:28

I would be interested in both (luggage plate and the extender).

Fiddich 31-08-12 09:51

I would be interested in both too.

xphase 01-09-12 01:09

Ok, some updates....

I made some paper templates just to get a feeling how the size would be.
And of course I would like to know what you guys think!

I'm quite satisfied with the small size plate!
But with the bigger one, well.... I dont know. It feels... VERY large! But very much luggage space though! :)
What do you think, is that size good or should it be smaller... like half of the size and no mounting points in the front instead? That would be easier to mount, and little more space behind your back. But there would be smaller luggage space and not as stable if there's no mounting points in the front of the extender....

http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket..._widener_8.JPG
http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket...widener_10.JPG
http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket...2018.23.35.jpg
http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket...2018.25.21.jpg

steveD 01-09-12 10:30

Will the seat still come off with the extended plate?:tongue3:

Metzy 01-09-12 11:20

What sought of coating will they have? Paint or black anodizing. I'm not to keen on the large plate but do like the look of the small plate. Would you ship to Australia?

xphase 01-09-12 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveD (Post 178269)
Will the seat still come off with the extended plate?:tongue3:

Uhm.... well.... Yes, if you take the plate off! :D
No, actually I dont really know yet! :) That depends on what distance's you are using! But that's a good point, and something I will look into.



Quote:

What sought of coating will they have? Paint or black anodizing. I'm not to keen on the large plate but do like the look of the small plate. Would you ship to Australia?
They will be anodized.... and yes I will ship to wherever you want. As long as you pay for the shipping fees. :)

Okay, now you gonna be tired of me... But I have made another model of extension plate that is a little smaller. I didn't like the look of the longer extension plate, and it would also be a little more work to mount it because of the distance's you have to mount on the grab handles....
This smaller extension, would ONLY be mounted on top of the smaller plate. And would still be strong enough to not have any mounting points in the front of it. It would also (as steveD pointed) be easier to get the seat off even with the extension plate on.
It would be about double the size than the smaller plate...

What do you think? Is it big enough? Better or worse than the first extension plate? Any thoughts about this?

http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket/extension1.JPG
http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket/extension2.JPG

Fiddich 01-09-12 16:32

Rack with big extension + mounting points.
Love the look of the rack and extension off the bike but would be concerned about the extension when on the bike - as mentioned above (backside and an off etc). Maybe I worry too much.

Ni3ous 01-09-12 18:14

Big extension is not needed, Drybag sits ok on the back seat as well. Looks of it is also a little weird. Do not expect a lot of orders.
But I think small plate is interesting.
Since I see you like doing stuff for Tenere think about other things to build instead of extended top plate.

By now, no company builded a good skid plate, thats why I made it on my own.
Mine is light, and cowers water pump without extra steel tube pipes.
And for my its the best lookin of them all.
If you construct such plate for a bit better price I think you would have orders. I can help you with design if you like.

-the build:
http://shrani.si/f/3m/i3/aBpAGjL/1/06032011.jpg

-polished
http://shrani.si/f/3F/uQ/lGL4J6i/img3591.jpg

-bottom view:
http://shrani.si/f/1i/aY/4fDzYSGX/img3648.jpg

-side:
http://shrani.si/f/3N/IO/vOo8PhK/img3600platew.jpg
http://shrani.si/f/2r/w2/3LgyHzf4/img3618.jpg


There are some more stuff you can do better that some companies and for smart price, like handlebar risers that also puts bar a bit forward not only upwards (and with that backwards, since the angle of forks is like so)
After that you loose clearence on dashboard, so you can make dash board extensions ( there are only two bolts that holds dashboard, mask and light), to put front mask a bit forward, and a bit more vertical. I believe that would make better windflow and would give more clearence, to put handlebar up and more forward, so better riding position and control if you ride standing alot. I did not do that yet because than turn signal plastics would have to be adjusted. Poliester made new panels that would fit between new position of mask and gasoline reservoir.

I hope this makes any sense, otherwise I can put some extra effort and show the idea in some pictures...

I see, you want to make foot pegs... I ride in standing postition most of the time, that means there is need of longer and especially wider pegs, so weight is distributed on bigger surface, that makes riding in standing position less "painfull".

There is more... but... step by step.

RafaelMartins 02-09-12 04:19

Bash guard is a nice option!

xphase 02-09-12 22:01

Ni3ous:
Thanks for your good ideas, I mainly do stuff that I myself need. Thats why I do much things for the Tenere. :)

I already have a bash plate so thats not my number one priority, but it could be � good winter project. So if you have any good design ideas let me know. Thats � nice bash guard you made yourself! Big and good protection for the engine. I really like it!

Handlebar risers is an upcoming project, I already have som ideas and models about that. You will notice further on... :)

If you have any ideas or images you would like to share please PM me or send � mail to info@xphase.se.

About the dashboard I didn't really understand what you mean....

I think I will go with the smaller extension plate because of my own needs and the easier way to mount it.

Metzy 03-09-12 04:59

How about a mount for the bar above the speedo to mount a GPS. Maybe a aluminum block that you can screw a threaded ram mount ball into. The bar is 12mm in diameter and the smallest the ram mounts go down to is for 13mm round bar. Screw in threaded ram mount ball link

J-P-W 03-09-12 09:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metzy (Post 178356)
How about a mount for the bar above the speedo to mount a GPS. Maybe a aluminum block that you can screw a threaded ram mount ball into. The bar is 12mm in diameter and the smallest the ram mounts go down to is for 13mm round bar. Screw in threaded ram mount ball link

Hi Metzy, when I went to fit my TomTom rider I found the supplied mount fitted above the clocks, but very was very tight:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8283/7...914640_b_d.jpg

So I've replaced that with a more appropriate mount from Ram directly [ Link]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8156/7...66fd7f_b_d.jpg

I do have tape there, just to protect the bar, but it's not slipping.

Hope that helps.

Jon

xphase 03-09-12 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metzy (Post 178356)
How about a mount for the bar above the speedo to mount a GPS. Maybe a aluminum block that you can screw a threaded ram mount ball into. The bar is 12mm in diameter and the smallest the ram mounts go down to is for 13mm round bar. Screw in threaded ram mount ball link

That's already on the "to do list".... ;)

xphase 25-09-12 15:33

Just to have you guys updated!

I have got my first prototypes from the fabric, and just mounted them on my bike and it fits really nice. Just have to bend the wings in correct angles and then anodize them to get the final results. I will keep you updated as soon as I have any pictures for you! :)

Metzy 17-10-12 02:20

Just wondering how the rear racks are moving along.

xphase 17-10-12 07:45

I soon have the first prototypes finished! They will be on anodizing in the end of this week, so in the next week I will have some product photos with the final result to show you! :)

xphase 18-10-12 20:32

Here are some crappy teaser images... (please be aware that they are not finished yet!)
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/19/ebu5aseb.jpg
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/10/19/a9a3yjeh.jpg

coxwain 23-10-12 20:33

anymore up dates on this

xphase 23-10-12 21:20

They are on anodizing right now, will have them back next week! *excited!!* :)

Later on, if there are any interested in these rackets. I need to order � minimum of 10 at once to have the price down to � satisfied margin. It will be around $120 for the smaller one i think!

xphase 30-10-12 11:20

Soon they will arrive........

xphase 13-11-12 17:17

Ok, finaly some updates.... It took a little bit longer than I thought to have them anodized. But now they are finished!

This is how they look like (sorry for the bad quality, I dont have any better camera available just now):

Small one:
http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket/svart_ram/bild1

http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket/svart_ram/bild2

http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket/svart_ram/bild3

Extension plate:
http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket/svart_ram/bild4

http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket/svart_ram/bild5

http://www.xphase.se/temp/top_racket/svart_ram/bild6


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 04:15.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.