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googan 28-08-11 23:13

Cush drive
 
How can you take up the play using rubber tubes.
Having changed my chain and sprockets today I noticed there is a bit of play with the rear sprocket and wheel.
After 12000miles I would assume it may be the Cush drives:smilies

Fiddich 28-08-11 23:22

Think there is an official kev mod description but heres a link.

http://www.xt660.com/showpost.php?p=113529&postcount=1

bluecoup 28-08-11 23:23

if you do a search there are a few threads about this
you basically cut lenghts of inner tube lay them over the rubbers and push the sprocket carrier back on so it wraps around the lobes
think its about �20 for the set from yamaha for that amount id just replace em

googan 29-08-11 17:08

Thanks for the advice

afk40 29-08-11 23:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluecoup (Post 161073)
if you do a search there are a few threads about this
you basically cut lenghts of inner tube lay them over the rubbers and push the sprocket carrier back on so it wraps around the lobes
think its about �20 for the set from yamaha for that amount id just replace em

Yes, but before ye push all day to get the sprocket carrier to wedge itself in...liberaly spray the rubbers wi WD40....it`l squeeze in nicley...:blob10:

WhiteYamBen 31-08-11 13:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluecoup (Post 161073)
if you do a search there are a few threads about this
you basically cut lenghts of inner tube lay them over the rubbers and push the sprocket carrier back on so it wraps around the lobes
think its about �20 for the set from yamaha for that amount id just replace em


its �36.50 for the lot, i replaced mine yesterday.

afk40 31-08-11 22:21

ye could have saved yersel 36.50.. an cut up an old tube...everyone does it,, an it makes it as new...

bluecoup 05-09-11 12:30

just ordered mine today too �36 forgot there was 4 bits to it, why do they ask how many you want as if you'd ony replace 2 ?

mine also has too much play to be taken up with tube bits,
i expect them to be rock hard and in lots of little bits from the play i've got, the chain is too tight too which isn't helping, bike has 10k on it and as far as i know they are original :sad11:

Markymark 18-10-11 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by googan (Post 161070)
How can you take up the play using rubber tubes.
Having changed my chain and sprockets today I noticed there is a bit of play with the rear sprocket and wheel.
After 12000miles I would assume it may be the Cush drives:smilies


Why do assume this is a bad thing? Is there supposed to be a little "Give" in this area.

fac191 18-10-11 20:10

cush drive
 
Done the Kev Mod on mine a week ago and its great . Wish i had done it sooner !

DickyC 18-10-11 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by afk40 (Post 161116)
Yes, but before ye push all day to get the sprocket carrier to wedge itself in...liberaly spray the rubbers wi WD40....it`l squeeze in nicley...:blob10:

Good advice. I learnt the hard way and struggled for ages getting the wheel and spacers inbefore resorting to silicone spray, then it was easy. Definately a good mod and both easy and worth doing.

bigTrev 19-10-11 17:50

just ordered a set from wemoto 21 squid :-)

bigTrev 20-10-11 15:01

Has anyone tried putting some grease on the rubbers before putting the sprocket carrier back on ? im thinking a bit of lubrication may help the life of cush drive ? just a thought.

cca 20-10-11 19:29

Maybe silicon grease. I haven't try.... yet.

Kev 20-10-11 22:00

Grease destroys the rubbers, use talcum power or soap if you want to add lube.

cca 20-10-11 22:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev (Post 163754)
Grease destroys the rubbers, use talcum power or soap if you want to add lube.

I have heard that silicone/teflon grease is safe. This is an article, but...


DuPont� Teflon� Silicone Lubricant
A clean, light duty lubricant. Excellent for non-metal materials that may be damaged by conventional lubricants. Helps prevent sticking, binding and freezing.
  • Formulated with DuPont� Teflon� fluoropolymer to outperform other silicone sprays in both metal and non-metal applications
  • Clean, non-staining and odorless
  • Waterproofs, protects, lubricates and preserves
  • For use on rubber, plastic, vinyl, leather, metal and wood
  • Eliminates squeaking and binding in windows, hinges, locks, etc.
  • Helps prevent rust, oxidation and corrosion on all metals
  • Protects o-rings, fishing gear, tools and farm equipment from salt, chlorine and corrosives
  • Helps prevent snow sticking and muddy buildups on shovels, snow blowers, wheel wells, etc.

66T 21-10-11 04:03

For what it's worth, I use rubber grease on mine. I realise the 'rubbers' probably aren't, but the grease works very well anyway. It has all but stopped the friction degredation (ie crumbling) I found after the first time I pulled the hub apart.

I thought 1000km in dust, water and so on might have caused a buildup of goop attracted by the grease, but it was all pretty clean in there.

bigTrev 21-10-11 13:44

That was my thoughts, if they were lubed, then there would be less friction and so a longer lifespan. But maybe Yamaha would have thought of this ? might try the soap idea just to see what happens, i can just picture bubbles coming from my back wheel on a wet day though !!

cca 23-10-11 18:16

Chain silicone lube, safe for o-rings or is it too optimistic?blowup

Fuchs 23-10-11 21:09

silicon should be fine. i use silicon on the rubberlocks on my seakayak for example. it protects the rubber against cracking, makes them seal to the kayak and even helps against ice on winter.

bigTrev 24-10-11 02:35

I have ordered some silicone grease on ebay, so i,ll give it a try.

DickyC 24-10-11 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev (Post 163754)
Grease destroys the rubbers, use talcum power or soap if you want to add lube.

Maybe KY jelly then as that is recomended for use with rubber! :042:

ian 05-12-12 15:43

should you pack out new cush drive rubbers with tubes as a matter of course my new ones don't seem that tight ?

maxwell123455 05-12-12 21:45

you can but try and get some motor tubes as they are stronger than bicycle ones but still flex. I'd just make sure to glue them in place as when you take the sprocket off all the bits go everywhere and it's hard to get them back in

jimmysimpson 05-12-12 22:03

Pity no-one makes poly cush drive rubbers. They would last forever.

Petenz 06-12-12 05:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev (Post 163754)
Grease destroys the rubbers, use talcum power or soap if you want to add lube.

Maybe rubber grease?...

boneman 06-12-12 12:39

Lithium Grease?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev (Post 163754)
Grease destroys the rubbers, use talcum power or soap if you want to add lube.

I've been using Lithium Grease for some time. I change over from a set of rims with D606s & Tourances regularly, and it does seem to have slowed down the wear of the rubbers... Is Lithium Grease OK with rubber?


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