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Originally Posted by Woottonboy (Post 143658)

I think the problem is an electrolitic reaction between some metal in the brake pads or rotors and the gal on the spokes. My guess is, it is because the pads don't contain asbestos!

Look closely, it is always worse on the pad dust side than the clean side.

I think Yamaha need to go into the big room of mirrors and have a long hard look at themselves if they think a new bike should look like this within 12 months.

Going to stainless however isn't neccessarily going to fix the problem. A very light gold plating might fix it.

How are we going to do that then, would the cost be prohibitive and would it be durable enough ?

On my previous GSA, I drove to Scotland from Hertford and back (700 miles) during last Christmas' snow and salt and only the panniers suffered. It has stainless spokes.

Aside from that, my bike was clean when all this happened. I washed it before the sea salt storm hit (see my post ~17) and it was not touched for the duration aside from being cleaned again...

Or are we talking "unobtainium" style technology here ?

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Originally Posted by Old Git Ray (Post 143657)

No, they are the crappy OEM zinc (I thnk) plated ones. Its sad when you consider that it is unlikely to cost much more to place stainless on as standard as BMW do.

Also, you did not say who changed/paid for the spokes to be changed.

I agree for the cost why didnt they use SSteel. I paid for the spokes and nipples which cost �120 and then I dropped both wheels off to the local dealer. The local dealer had them collected and rebuilt however Yamaha UK paid for the rebuild so my total bill was 120. It was a warranty claim which inc new spokes, nipples and all bolts etc. When the spokes arrived I had my own ss ones made and the process was completed...hope that helps

well you could approach the problem two ways

Since the spokes on the s10 are apparently fairly easy to remove. Why not take one out, clean it again and take it to an electroplaters which will be able to apply a one micron coat of just about anything.

Or

Take a clean spoke to someone that "blues" gun barrels and get it nitrided.

After that, see which works best.

If you had a mate at any serious metalugical engineering place get them to use their gold coater for a test spoke.

WARNING: TWO DRUNKEN EXPERTS HAVE ASSESSED THIS ISSUE THE FOLLOWING MAY NOT BE FACTUAL TOMORROW IN THE LIGHT OF DAY

My mate Dave looked at my spokes he agrees with me, it is something to do with the dust from the brake pads. That could be because he was drinking my beer at the time however.

Can you get tubeless rear wheels and eliminate the spokes?