What Oil for the Tenere
 

Hi guys and folks

Tenere done 3000 miles want to put a fresh oil what would you recomend?

semi synthetic 10w40

i have options of

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Castrol

Rock oil

Motorex

Fuchs Silkolene


As for Oil Fillter

Champion or HiFlo

Thanks

:team[1]:

Brand-wise...meh whatever comes to hand of the right type and grade.

I thought the Ten' took fully synth though...ICBW

uberthumper
 

Thanks for that

just had quick read through the manual but could not find the fully or semi

:happy6:

Bit confused???

F1 F1:cya:

Personally I always use Putoline (do you hear that Putoline, now send me some free stuff!!)

Putoline have two 4-stroke ranges - Syntech 4 (road bikes) and Off-road 4, (yes, you guessed it...) but I reckon they are pretty much the same stuff, just a different picture on the sticker...

If you are going to go 6000 miles between oil and filter changes, I'd go with off-road4/syntech4 PLUS version (that is with added 'ester tech' nonsense), if you change around 3000-4000 miles, the regular off-road4/syntech4 would be fine I'm sure... both versions are fully synthetic... and you'll save a bit of money forfeiting the ester tech additives...

I'd say in a bike with relatively long service intervals, it pays to use good quality (synthetic) oil that is less likely to break down over an extended period.

FWIW. in my XR400 (where I change the oil every 1000 miles), I usually use their regular DX4 ('synthetic fortified') oil...

While the WR450, which again has frequent oil changes, I use the regular off-road4 - after all, those little ester techs would never get a chance to do their business with an oil change every other day!

Bikes of Brighton (Preston Road) sell Putoline, and usually have all the variants in stock...

Tell 'em I sent you, and they will probably run screaming in fear of someone else asking for a discount... but they will look after you...

J xx

Thanks JMo
 

I will look in to that Putoline stuff

and I will go for fully synthetic

Thank you
:thumbsup:

By the way are you round Brighton (you seem to know the shop???)

any motorcycle specific oil in the grade you desire will be fine..
I don't think anyone can say whether one oil is better than the other unless they are sampling their oil after every change and getting it tested..

Hee hee - I used to live in Brighton (for 16 years), but moved a couple of years ago now... I still get back there from time to time though - mainly to harass the guys in Bikes Of Brighton...

J xx

I've got Silkolene semi synthetic in my Ten' and a K&N oil filter.

Fully synthetic has caused me clutch slip problems in the past (the oil's too good!) although not used it in the Ten'. I'll change my oil every few k miles, so semi is fine (and I use it in my BMW K12).

Putoline I use in my Beta - particularly like the Strawberry scented 2T oil..

I just came back from Yamaha Dealer here in Bucharest after doing the second service interval at 7300km (4500miles) (first one was made by the previous owner at 600miles). I just wanted to be on the safe side and also I want to start moding the bike so for warranty purposes I went for the service sooner.
I bought the oil myself Motul 10W40 7100 MA2 full synthetic and I found out from the Motul importer that Yamalube is actually Motul 5100 semisynthetic oil.
So Motul 7100 10W40 MA2 and OEM filter.

Cheers,
Mr.White

Rock Oil
 

Thanks guys

I can get a good price on Rock oil

Anyone used them in past???

I did used in Varadero (xl1000v) before seemed fine?

:team[1]:

how good a price ?

Rock oil rocks all the mx'ers used to use it used to go past the factory a lot but not heard from them in a while

stuxtttr
 

I can get the oil form

http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/Yamaha/X..._Tenere/08-09/

look in the oil section (a bit cheaper as I work there :bricks:)

:partyondude:

Yup
Just done the 600 mile filter and oil change and used Castrol GP4
Non synthetic (had probs with that before) And cheap enough.
Its a big single,,, it`l run with chip fat in it if you`r desperate :laughing11:

Not that it's of much interest outside Australia... I use Penrite Sin 5, which is Japanese-MA-rated (suitable for motorcycles), fully synthetic 5W-60. I used this stuff by accident when I bought some for my car, then was advised by Penrite to use a different grade.

I then used the Sin 5 in my work TTR250, initially so I didn't waste it. It turned out that it stood up to extreme use amazingly well, with excellent clutch engagement and good gear shifting even on days up to 49degC. It lasted without noticeable degradation of either benchmark for the full 1000km service interval, which doesn't sound much. But it is, and by that time, every other oil I'd tried, including dedicated motorycle oils, generally showed degradation by chattering clutch engagement and increasingly sticky shifting.

So the Tenere has it too, and I hope it works as competently in it as it does in the big-block :laughing11: 250! Just my 20c...

I suppose the 5w isn't going to cause too much drama in a low revving single.. but I'd be sticking to the recommended grade oil IMO..

and why on earth use a full synth oil if you are going to replace it after just 1000km's ??

Today, almost every OIL especified for bikes is good enough for the ten, IMHO it is much more important to warm -and I mean really warm- the bike before riding it and change the oil every 5 or 6000km, you don't have to worry about brands or types.

There is no OIL able to lubricate your bike when cold, and even the best "full ester" OIL will become degraded after 10000km. the transmition gears simply "break" the ester molecules, and the clutch -especially offroad- burn the oil much faster than the engine itself.

FYI, I do use Motul 5100, a pretty good semi OIL, the main reason is that I got it pretty cheap, otherwise I would use a Wallmart/Carrefour cheapo OIL, they are as good as any brand under normal conditions and frequent changes.

have fun,

j.

I'm not. At least in the Tenere. But in my 250, a mustering bike, the oil is changed about every 50 hours, or 1000km average. Slow, hot work, a lot of clutch action in harsh conditions flogs any oil. That's why on earth.

The 5W when the motor is cold isn't a drama imo - the oil is still much thicker at startup than it is at operating temperature no matter what. And the Penrite I use is, as I said, an MA-rated oil, so it meets the requirements for the Tenere.

I tend to agree that any good MA oil is good enough for the 660. I just prefer to use an oil I've proved to work for me.

Just got back from my 4000 mile service. I got home from a 20min ride, turned the engine off, had a fag and then checked the dip stick. It read empty?!? I know you should run it for 10 mins then check the dip stick so Im wondering if the cigarette I had would of been enough time to reduce the pressure enough for the dipstick to register Empty? I feel a bit of a fool to phone the dealer and ask if the had defo put oil in it. Im going to check it tomorrow from cold with a 10 min tick over first.
Im sure in the past whenever I checked the dipstick it always read Full or near ass however hot or cold the engine was??

Hi Jimmy - as I recall, you are meant to check the oil with a warm engine, straight after you switch the engine off. Unscrew the dip stick, wipe it, reinsert but don't screw it down (yeah yeah, stop sniggering at the back), and pull it out and read the level...

Dealers are notorious for putting exactly what the workshop manual says is the correct volume, and call it good... you might find it's a few ml down from the top of the dipstick, but it's more likely you left it too long before checking...

J x

ive used halfords 10/40 on alsorts of bikes for along time
never a problem on much higher stressed engines than the xt

ive never had a problem with it ..if anything its going to have a easier time in the xt ..ive grown to trust it now .. me littel wee strom has 50 k plus up and is absalutley fine :102:

your paying for somthing you dont need even the handbook states full synthetic may make the clutch slip
stick to a name you trust by all means

have a troll round on the net ect ect
but full synthetic is not the way to go

I agree with minkyhead.

Try Opie oils who are now promoted (ing) on our beloved forum somewhere..

Here you go: http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=15539

It doesn't, at least in my bike. Admittedly I've not done many km yet, and I'm in no hurry do rack them up, but full synthetic is good imo.

Annoyingly, Penrite have altered their 5W60, in the process dumping its MA rating. I've now changed to Motorex CrossPower 10W60, which is excellent so far. And for all the haters of heavier oils, KTM and husky four strokes (including big-bore singles like the TE 630) are supposed to run on oils of this grade. If you don't want to use it, well, as has been said earlier the Ten will run on chip oil (longevity aside!), so to each their own. It probably makes very little difference.:rant:

I've got the CrossPower 10W60 in my TTR250 as well, and with 54,000km (and about 3,500 hours) not too far off it runs fine with it.

I recently changed the oil and used Valvoline durablend 10w40 4t. Unfortunately the engine became annoyingly vibey above 3500rpm.
Now I'm looking forward to the next oil change.
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