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Kev 02-07-09 23:34

I can not see why you could not fined other seals beside OEM, I have never seen a brake system that could not be opened & seals found from them.

One would need to strip the brakes then do a little home work in looking for the seals. Most brake specialists could do the repair for you.

jiauka 03-07-09 01:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kev (Post 99481)
I can not see why you could not fined other seals beside OEM, I have never seen a brake system that could not be opened & seals found from them.

+1

Nissin, JAP and other brands sell repair kits, but Brembo doesn't, if you can not find the parts at your local seal shop, you could order then from http://www.tawvehicle.com/ at the states, there I was able to find brembro pistons.

have fun,

j.

KazakDan 03-07-09 01:24

08 Tenere seized front calipers - CONTD
 
Well, today I went to the bike after another 2 months storage and the second caliper is totally seized.

I will be riding to the shop tomorrow with one back brake... to get it fixed. They already agreed to do the right side under warranty and I am hoping they will do the left too.

What a crazy system- providing an unservicaeable caliper on a bike which will see more dirt and sand action than most other road going trailies. I am covered by warranty...

You could say that I have not taken good enough care of the bike (4 months storage should not require a brake overhaul/replacement surely?) but even so, if I can't service a normal, serviceable item like a piston seal on a caliper then what is the point in owning tools?

�209 per caliper for the front - before labour and fluids, is not an acceptable running cost.

Yamaha need to seriously rethink what they use and why they use it. Brembo normally equals quality and performance - but if the things seize after very mild neglect (storage after cleaning) then Yamaha need to replace under warranty with a better, serviceable item.

I am selling the bike owing to change in personal circumstances. But I would not be keen to keep it beyond the warranty period given this kind of experience.

KazakDan 03-07-09 01:27

Brembo
 
Also, why should I have to trawl the net to find some obscure supplier in the USA just to sort a common, everyday service issue.
It's not good enough. When you start measuring piston and comparing seals from KTM kits on the desk of the workshop, you know you are shaping up for a botch job.

Distinctly bad taste left in mouth... not happy.

Kev 03-07-09 02:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by KazakDan (Post 99492)
Also, why should I have to trawl the net to find some obscure supplier in the USA just to sort a common, everyday service issue.
It's not good enough. When you start measuring piston and comparing seals from KTM kits on the desk of the workshop, you know you are shaping up for a botch job.

Distinctly bad taste left in mouth... not happy.

We are only offering a alternate repair to replacing the parts if the bike was not under warranty, or stuck & have no other choice then to by new Yamaha parts.

I also agree with you I would not be happy & that it should not have seized up, I would like to know the reason why it seized, any chance you could ask the dealer to give you feed back as to why it seized. I would strongly suggest the dealer reports their finds to Yamaha so they can make sure this does not happen to other XTZ's

Any good mechanic would could easily measure up seals & guaranty that they will work.

CaptMoto 03-07-09 03:29

KazakDan, hello, this is CaptMoto writing... I am the guvnor round here, nice to meet you.

Now... I presume from what I have read in these threads that your issue is a very isolated and unique one, in that no other Tenere owner has experienced this particular fault and it is unfortunate that you are having to go through this.

Most common problems that affected others, have been more or less all honoured by Yamaha under their repair warranty scheme.

I believe as a result that if the problem of your caliper seizing is rare, that you have a good cause for putting forward a warranty claim on the whole caliper set and demand a replacement on the basis that this is a very serious potential accident causing problem. God forbid you are cruising at 70 odd mph, and you apply the front brake only to find out the brake clamps your disk and doesn't let go. I see trouble.

What Kev has suggested, being a highly skilled mechanic is something that every good mechanic should be able to carry out and fix. However the point here is that you should not recur to this, you should expect Yamaha to fix it for you, free of charge and with a new safety tested caliper assembly to ensure that in a couple of months time you are not suing them for damages if your bike causes you to come off because the break has seixed.

I hope you appreciate all the suggestions that Kev and other are giving you in here, which is why we have this forum of discussion, i.e. to share our experience, lend a hand with the knowledge of those like Kev who have bags of it and I hope you were not being impertinent to those who helped you as that would be classed as ungrateful.

At the end of the day we can give you advices and suggestion but its Yamaha that has to pull their finger out and sort out your bike.

I myself am always grateful when I get free friendly advice.

Let us know how you get on and good luck

KazakDan 19-08-09 23:04

Seized calipers - false alarm?
 
Well, after the dealer inspected the piston not returning, he agreed to fit one front caliper on warranty. I on the day I was to ride it, the other caliper appeared to be jammed on.

Long story short, after a recovery to the shop it turned out that the issue was caused by the brake lever not returning fully because of the Barkbuster hand guards fouling the lever.

It was a question of millimetres but apparently enough to cause the problem. Hand guard removed, no issue. (but I got a free new caliper because they had already got it in).

Oh well...

JMo 20-08-09 00:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by KazakDan (Post 103506)
Well, after the dealer inspected the piston not returning, he agreed to fit one front caliper on warranty. I on the day I was to ride it, the other caliper appeared to be jammed on.

Long story short, after a recovery to the shop it turned out that the issue was caused by the brake lever not returning fully because of the Barkbuster hand guards fouling the lever.

It was a question of millimetres but apparently enough to cause the problem. Hand guard removed, no issue. (but I got a free new caliper because they had already got it in).

Oh well...

Hee hee - priceless!

xxx

Big Dazza 25-03-14 01:23

Having front caliper issues on my 2011 XTZ
 
Hi guys, I'm currently having front brake binding issues on my 2011 XTZ, my local dealer has suggested that I will need a pair of new calipers! On a bike that's been extremely well looked after and isn't even 3 years old yet!
Looking at this thread and how old it is I wondered if anyone has had any luck in finding a rebuild kit for these calipers or indeed found a suitable replacement?

Sandman 25-03-14 08:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Dazza (Post 198310)
Hi guys, I'm currently having front brake binding issues on my 2011 XTZ, my local dealer has suggested that I will need a pair of new calipers! On a bike that's been extremely well looked after and isn't even 3 years old yet!
Looking at this thread and how old it is I wondered if anyone has had any luck in finding a rebuild kit for these calipers or indeed found a suitable replacement?


Take a look at this thread:

http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?...hlight=caliper

There are some posts from Pleiades which may help.

Good luck!

Sandman.


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