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Molgan 13-04-09 23:15

Weaving (XTZ)
 
I think weaving is the correct term for what I'm experiencing. At moderate to high speed, especially during acceleration combined with quick lane shifts, the whole bike starts swaying heavily. It has never gotten critical just a bit spooky, but since it appears irregular it's hard to replicate and test changes. I just wonder what I should work on to minimize the problem, I have a feeling the tires have a lot to do with it since when I ran on the Karoo/MT21 combo the problem was a lot bigger but on the Tourances it was much less (running on TKC's now). Should I put higher or lower pressure in them? Use harder/softer suspension? Can bad alignment of the wheels affect it?

Old Git Ray 13-04-09 23:25

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Originally Posted by Molgan (Post 89788)
I think weaving is the correct term for what I'm experiencing. At moderate to high speed, especially during acceleration combined with quick lane shifts, the whole bike starts swaying heavily. It has never gotten critical just a bit spooky, but since it appears irregular it's hard to replicate and test changes. I just wonder what I should work on to minimize the problem, I have a feeling the tires have a lot to do with it since when I ran on the Karoo/MT21 combo the problem was a lot bigger but on the Tourances it was much less (running on TKC's now). Should I put higher or lower pressure in them? Use harder/softer suspension? Can bad alignment of the wheels affect it?

Its the TCK80s.....mine did exactly the same as soon as I changed the tyres. And yes it is called weaving.
Mine starts at about 100-110 KPH (60-70 mph.)
To stop it I completely release my grip on the bars and just touch the throttle very gently. Scary but it works. I had the same problem on my Pan European ST1300.
Lets face it the TCK80s are not designed to go fast they are a semi off road tyre after all.
Try it....OGR

Molgan 13-04-09 23:37

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Originally Posted by Old Git ray (Post 89790)
Its the TCK80s.....mine did exactly the same as soon as I changed the tyres. And yes it is called weaving.
Mine starts at about 100-110 KPH (60-70 mph.)
To stop it I completely release my grip on the bars and just touch the throttle very gently. Scary but it works. I had the same problem on my Pan European ST1300.
Lets face it the TCK80s are not designed to go fast they are a semi off road tyre after all.
Try it....OGR

Ok thanks for the tip. I usually just straighten the bike up and give it a little more gas, sometimes it works sometimes it get worse. :laughing7:

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 14-04-09 09:14

YIP,

I agree with OGR, I run Michelin Endur Comp III & IV's on the TTR - it weaves like crazy at anything over 60mph. I just slow down!

JMo 14-04-09 09:23

OK, without sounding like I'm after a free set of TKC for my bike (although that would be nice Continental, having bought seven of them in the last six months x) I'm not sure it's necessarily the tyres, as I've not experienced any weaving with them myself...

I run them at 30psi and they are pretty damn good. You might want to check your rear wheel alignment, and also the wheel bearings, just to eliminate those from the equation?

xxx

(ps. 140 rear this time please Conti x)

Molgan 14-04-09 09:50

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Originally Posted by JMo (Post 89815)
I run them at 30psi and they are pretty damn good. You might want to check your rear wheel alignment, and also the wheel bearings, just to eliminate those from the equation?

I see, run mine at 2.3 bar (guess it's something like 32 psi?) at the moment since I thought stiffer tires might help. Gonna have someone to look at my bearings just in case. And the alignment, last time the tire was off I held the wrench, that usually means trouble. :laughing7:

Hope you get your tires!

Old Git Ray 16-04-09 18:32

I'm not sure why, but when Karen sits on the back I do not get the weave (with the TCKs) at any speed.
2 possible reasons or a combination of both.
1) The extra weight causing the rear tyre to make a bigger footprint or/and
2) The weight being on the back makes the rake and trial bigger (the angle of the forks) and stabilzes the bike.

I would plump for the rake and trail thing myself.

Ray

PS...Molgan there are 14.7 PSI in a Bar so 2.3 bar = 33.8 PSI

Molgan 16-04-09 21:33

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Originally Posted by Old Git ray (Post 90188)
PS...Molgan there are 14.7 PSI in a Bar so 2.3 bar = 33.8 PSI

Ah close. :D

arnd 30-05-09 22:29

I've just purchased my first XT660X and while riding back home experienced an almaost tank slapper at around 85mph. I have Michelins with the duel compounds on the bike. I tried to power through it but it got worse so I had to throttle off and hand on until it settled.

arnd 13-06-09 23:57

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Originally Posted by arnd (Post 96264)
I've just purchased my first XT660X and while riding back home experienced an almaost tank slapper at around 85mph. I have Michelins with the duel compounds on the bike. I tried to power through it but it got worse so I had to throttle off and hand on until it settled.

Had a read through this site and someone suggested taking some pressure out of the front tyre? I took it from 34 to 30 and it seems to have cured it!
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