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josephau 06-02-09 20:29

Rusty Parts Anyone?
 
Yes, my brake discs and chain are showing rusts. I know it has snowed and there was salt on the ground and I rode the bike then, but am I being naive or is there better quality replacement parts out there that would not rust so easily?

tenyamman 07-02-09 12:57

yep my brake discs going rusty and getting the main dealer to look at situation when i take in for 600 mile service. i've only done 300miles in dry conditions and the water has come from me washing my bike when i get home.!!!!!

one chap has told me that rusty discs can present a problem later on as you can get judder thru braking.As rust doesnt effect the part of disc thats beneath the caliper when stored (so no longer a consistant flat disc). Told answer is you need to keep turning wheels when stored!! what happened to putting GOOD parts on the bike in 1st place.

deiaccord 10-02-09 09:32

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Originally Posted by josephau (Post 82010)
Yes, my brake discs and chain are showing rusts. I know it has snowed and there was salt on the ground and I rode the bike then, but am I being naive or is there better quality replacement parts out there that would not rust so easily?

Brake disc show some rust if left for a few days, but is easily scrubbed off after using it next day.

Chain, I suppose you could get a stainless one (���) but keeping sufficient lubrication on the chain (it can get washed off quite quick in rain/snow) should stop it getting it all that rusty.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 10-02-09 09:46

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Originally Posted by tenyamman (Post 82065)
what happened to putting GOOD parts on the bike in 1st place.

Steel reacts with the elements, that's nothing to do with quality, it's just plain science. As far as your chain goes, it is rusting because it hasn't got sufficient/correct lubrication on it (for the conditions), the rust is a warning that you are damaging other parts of the drivechain. You cannot coat the brake discs, they have to wear as it is a friction device, so they will rust if you do not dry them - just like any other exposed steel!

The answer could be to use Carbon discs, but for me I'd rather replace my discs every year that take the hit of the cost of carbon brakes!

josephau 11-02-09 23:09

Thanks all for your advise. I realize I haven't lub the chain for quite a while, but mainly because I wasn't home and have left the bike outside on the street for most of two months. I probably should just replace the sprockets and chains then try to be discipline in lubricating them. For the brake discs, I have been considering swapping them for some wave discs which I heard are lighter. OTR even said I don't need two disc brakes, but I think I feel safer for having two.

Peatbog 12-02-09 01:32

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Originally Posted by josephau (Post 82531)
OTR even said I don't need two disc brakes

WTF?:confused1: am i missing something?

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 12-02-09 09:36

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Originally Posted by josephau (Post 82531)
. I probably should just replace the sprockets and chains then try to be discipline in lubricating them.

Why not get an Oiler fitted at the same time? Something like a ScottOiler, then you never need to worry about the chain, just keep the oil bottle full (one fillup last about 500miles)


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Originally Posted by josephau (Post 82531)
For the brake discs, I have been considering swapping them for some wave discs which I heard are lighter. OTR even said I don't need two disc brakes, but I think I feel safer for having two.

If you were to go to one disc, you're going to have to modify the brake hoses too. I'd stick with 2 discs, Yamah have put 2 there for a reason, maybe the extra weight of the Z over the X ??

deiaccord 12-02-09 14:46

If you leave your bike unused for 2 months outside I'd suggest the chain is going to rust oiled or not and with scottoiler or not (you need to use the bike for it to work).

As GULGO said the brake discs are steel and the bit worn by the pads needs to be clean so unless you wash, dry and keep it dry you could see rust on it in less than 24 hours (I do almost without fail after it has been washed or used in the wet). It soon clears from here once the brakes have been applied a few times, or if you clean it properly however.

I'd also heed Keithblade's advice on salt. Salt + bike = rust unless you meticliously clean and store the bike every time afterwards.

BadgeStar 12-02-09 16:09

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Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 82567)
If you were to go to one disc, you're going to have to modify the brake hoses too. I'd stick with 2 discs, Yamah have put 2 there for a reason, maybe the extra weight of the Z over the X ??

I agree with GULGo ........ I thought that the single disc brakes were lacking a bit on my XTR, especially when riding two-up!

Barry.

stuxtttr 12-02-09 18:22

I have thought about ditching one disc up front I also thought that by doing this I then have a spare disc to replace the worn out one and a set of spare pads, if i did this I would convert to stainless braided hose. Chris Scott thought that 2 was a bit OTT. I think Yamaha put 2 discs up front as a visual appeal.

As far as the rust goes if I leave my bike outside for any length of time without use I would give the whole bike a good coating of oil, yes even the discs they only need a quick clean before next use.

josephau 12-02-09 20:32

I thought about scottoiler, but after studying it and reading comments on blogs, I have decided not to go with it, because a) the setup looks dodgy IMHO (the oil could drip to the tire, which is no good), and b) 500 mile refill is about the same interval for lubricating the chain the old fashion way, and c) apparently the refilling process is not as clean as one would think. I know many love them and that's great. Putting the bike on center stand, lubing it, and getting my hands dirty kind of make me feel I am really taking care of it, putting some LOOOVVEEE to it. Then again, the fact that it rusts means that apparently I haven't been taking good care of it :(

I think I will stick with two brake discs at the front, safer and more symmetrical looking, but I am looking for some light weight wave discs.

tripletom 12-02-09 21:23

Hey Josephau. If I could offer a couple of points? Firstly with regards to the chain oiling, I've just bought one of these- http://www.chainoiler.org.uk/ I had them make up a long one at 200mm. Took me all of 10 minutes to fit and works very well. No need to cut wiring, or vacuum tubes, and cheap too.
Secondly with the wave discs. I fitted some to my Triumph Speed Triple and there is no noticeable difference apart from the brake pads get worn away faster and the sound of braking is louder. I fitted them because they were cheaper than EBC or OE discs, and wouldn't bother on any other grounds.

firestorm_al 16-02-09 23:05

My bike has been tucked away for the last week or so due to the snow but when I as in the shed the other day it looked like the silver plating on the inside of the rear indicators was all flaking off. I need to try and get a look at it during daylight to make a popper assessment.

The build quality of the Tenere doesn't seem anywhere near as good as the XTX

Peatbog 17-02-09 01:17

with regards to 1 or 2 discs issue - my XTR scared me as when loaded up for a trip last year my girlfriend had more engine braking on her SV than i had proper braking - i am more than happy that Yam have put two dics on the Z.

i always wondered why they put a braided hose on the X and not the R, and why the R has a smaller disc in a bigger rim than the X? the braking on the R is always gonna be the worst (as std) of the three, especially with the naff plastic lever.

firestorm_al 17-02-09 23:24

I had a good look at my Ten this evening and I was right, at least 50% of the silver coating on the inside of my rear indicators has gone!

http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1323/dscn2546dc8.jpg

The bottom of the steering shaft thing that is pressed into the bottom yoke has loads of corrosion on it and the chain is a right mess.

My bike has less than 300 miles on the clock and gets a good coating of FS365 spay after every ride.

Al.

RichLew 17-02-09 23:41

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Originally Posted by Peatbog (Post 83112)
i always wondered why they put a braided hose on the X and not the R, and why the R has a smaller disc in a bigger rim than the X? the braking on the R is always gonna be the worst (as std) of the three, especially with the naff plastic lever.

The R and the Z have smaller diameter discs to improve ground clearance when riding through ruts so the disc doesnt "ground out"

Peatbog 17-02-09 23:46

Ah! fair enough, i'll go back to sleep:sleep01:


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