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Handguards?...vibrations?
I have Carpal Tunnel Syndrome in both hands, its a condition which means that with exposure to vibration (like thumpers) my hands go numb and i cant grip things.....like handlebars.
on my old 'R' i had a set of Yam handguards, which meant removing the stock bar end weights, therefore losing the tiny damping effect they had. this meant i had quite a problem with numbness on that bike. On the new Tenere i don't have a numbness problem at all, i think this may be down to the fact that the bar end weights weigh about a stone each! My point, and my question is - have any of you who have fitted handguards noticed a diffrence in bar/grip vibration as a result?? I'd like to fit some to protect the levers in the event of an off - and to keep the weather off my mitts. however i'll never fit them if it means i'll be going back to vibe-numb hands- I'll just carry a spare set of levers instead. thanks in advance for any advice. Pete. |
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A couple of years ago I also had CTS in my left wrist, had it operated and it's gone. What also might help(it did on my XT600E) are handlebar risers. I also got handguards on my Tenere, first the original guards&deflectors and now the Touratech setup. Although the bar endweights in both options are lighter, the difference in vibes is minimal, in my experience.
Greetz, Hans. |
I also noticed the difference when i fitted hanguards and removed the weights,but bought a set of acerbis multiplo e guards and that allows me to fit the bar end wights back on back to normal now with no vibration
The only downside is the price on the handguards ,but as they say yuo get what you pay for and these are far superior to anything else on the market |
Yamaha OEM Handguards
I have the stock Yamaha handguards fitted, with the small spoiler (which is remarkably effective considering it's size). There is no issue with vibration at all, probably because these guards keep the bar end weights. There are a good piece of engineering, designed for the bike, fit and work with the bike - but expensive.
I think the guards are something like �50-�60, and the spoiler another �50 (the spoiler is a complete rip off realy) |
I have fitted the KTM handguards which allowed me to keep the original bar end weights. These guards seem to be the only ones around that have a hole for the bar end that is big enough to mod to allow the bar end to be replaced.
PS at the moment I have totally butchered them, taking off the lower and upper deflector parts to make them thinner so that they are basically a bar which in turn supports my MUFFS to keep them in shape. The only downside is that I've had to buy another pair of thinner gloves because my hands get soooooooo warm and comfy and I don't need thick gloves anymore when it's so cold!!!!!!!:024: |
I replaced my bars with renthal - which reduce vibration over the stock bars (without bar ends).
Then added KTM handguards. I then had the original barends machined to fit the KTM handguards - fitting these results in almost zero vibration. I recently rode 3 Teneres back-to-back 1) Renthal 916 (Dakar High Rise) + KTM handguards + end weights 2) Standard bars + Yamaha handguards 3) Renthal 966 (I think) + KTM Handguards 1 was the smoothest 2 and 3 felt about the same. Russ |
Thanks for all the replies folks, i've a few options to look at now. :023:
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You could try different grips ??
I know you can get foam ones which could be another option if all else fails. Don't know if they're any good mind. |
Tip for getting rid of any Vib's you may feel through the Bar's.
I drill a 4mm hole in the centre of the Bar's Then I get a tube of silicon and pump it into the hole ...Keep going till it starts to come out of each end of the bar's. Once the Bar's are full leave them a day to set . You should find that this get's rid of any Vib's you may have had. :001: Dazzer |
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To my knowledge, the weights used for the guards are smaller(and lighter) then the ones that came with the bike as new. So it's right you got them when the guards were fitted, keep 'em in case you want to get back to original. I changed from the original handguards to Touratech, which came with their own endweights. So that's the story.
Greetz, Hans. P.s.: there's no significant difference in vibes between the two set-ups and the original no-handguards set-up, in my experience. |
I fitted a pair of black KTM 640 Adventure hand guards to my 08 Tenere. You can still use the bar ends. As the bars on the ktm are fatter you have to pack out the bar attachments with a wee bit of rubber or suchlike. By the way a new set of 640 adventure handguards are only �40. and boy do they make a difference in this cold weather.
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I am waiting to have an OP for my CTS in the mean time I went down to a local gun shop and bought some fine lead shot. I bought some 10mm clear plastic tube from my local Hardware store and made my own removable lead bar snake. I would say I have lost 80% of my vibration for NZ$12. I then put bar raises on which cause me to sit slightly more upright, this reduces pressure on the hand. These mods are both easily reversible and allow for fine tuning. I can now ride for 3-4 times as far before my hand says " you have enjoyed your fun, now go home"
For those without CTS they will not understand how quick you hand starts to get painful even with a little vibration. |
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I had a CTS decompression op on my right wrist three years ago, best thing i ever had done. it was a real downer before - having to pull in the clutch and coast for a bit every 2-3 miles just so i could hang my hand down to get some feeling back in it. not to mention the sleepless, painful nights.... Just in case you're having any doubts - do it. |
I plan on having it done, seeing the specialist next week, it just got worse with riding the XT over Christmas. The main problem I had, was my clutch hand. Riding in rush hour so much between 30-60k I was constantly on the clutch moving between 2nd and 3rd which after 30min was agony.
I did 2 things to ease this before I came up with the lead weighted bar. 1. Dropped a tooth on the front cog, this meant I could go straight to 3rd for most of my traveling and still have plenty of torch at lower 3rd gear revs. This was great, reducing my clutch usage 50%. Yes I could have not used my clutch ( as bike purists do ) but I need better control in heavy traffic. 2. I bought an anti vibration gel glove insert from a safety shop. They are used to reduce vibration using power tools. This is great but has the draw back of having to put an inner and outer glove on each time I ride. Hence the flexible lead snake bar. Bar end weights did just not cut it for me, even heavy ones. Jeff :) |
I recently fitted the touratw at hand guards and went for a wee spin yesterday. As mentioned before they come with a smaller set of weights. There is slightly more vibration at higher speeds but bearable for me.
Stumpy |
Hi All. I fitted these handguards at the weekend.They are Polisport sharp guards,and cost �21.05 from Demon Tweeks in Wrexham.As you can see i have left the cross bar in place,and also was able to use the original bar weights.
http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...5022009073.jpg http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...5022009071.jpg http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...5022009070.jpg Gary |
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cheers, Pete. |
Hi Pete. Have a look at these pictures to see if they help.I made a small spacer to go on the end of the right hand bar so the throttle still returns nice.The reason for this is the oxford heated grips are slightly longer than the original yamaha grips and would touch the handguards.
Gary http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...22009070-1.jpg http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...22009071-1.jpg http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...22009073-1.jpg |
Hi Gary
Grips look good, nice price and its good they didn't have to modified to much. Are they giving you much weather protection?? |
gary - thanks for taking the time to take the extra pics- i'm betting a set of them might end up on mine soon.
cheers, Pete. |
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Hi guy,s. The hanguards combined with the oxford heated grips keep my hands really warm.The guards at �21.05 and the Heated Grips at �35.00 i thought are very good value for money,and i would recommend them to anyone.The handguards also come in a number of different colours. Gary |
Sorry Gary
I meant the hand guards.. Do they give good protection against wind, rain etc. Mark. |
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Yes i think they offer good protection against the elements.They are very similar to the ktm ones i have fitted to my exc.If you need any close up pictures let me know. Gary |
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Cheers |
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