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To be honest a GPS draws so little current, I doubt it would fry the electrics if you left it connected to the socket behind the dash? - but as we've had it from the horses mouth that it's best not to use it, I guess there will now be an upsurge in GPS power cable sales as we've cut all ours down!
Also, I wonder if the power socket behind the dash is used each time the bike is serviced (do they plug in the diagnostics each time?), which would be a hassle if you'd spent ages heat shrinking your GPS cable and connectors to it like I did... So, thank's again for the heads-up Scottnet - this is the joy of Forums I guess?! xxx btw. I had my GPS wired directly to the battery on my XRR, and since the cable terminals were exposed when you disconnected the unit (Gamin 2610), you had to make sure to fit the little protector cap or else risk shorting the GPS fuse if the connector touched the frame etc. So wired via the ignition circuit makes sense... |
Yeah what is even worse is that I couldn't find a female connector to fit the Yamaha connector so cut it off and replaced it with another of a slightly different size! That will confuse them if they try to connect to it!
What a mess! :smilies0979: |
I've found that if you use the pins from the waterproof style connectors (that is 1.5mm spade type) then they fit straight into the block connectors on the Yamaha loom, you can then just heat shrink everything to make it nice and secure...
I suggest you do this with the block connector under the seat as it seems to have 4 wires, even though you only need to use the two I described above... Are you able to reinstate the original connector behind the dash? It might be a good idea if the dealer ever needs to check the system etc. xxx |
I'll have to try and find it now as I did the job at a mates garage and we may have thrown it away as I clipped it very close!
PS Just checked out the MM site and that's my bike in their pics! It's famous! :wav: |
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How do you find the taller screen? I've noticed I get a lot of wind noise over 60mph when wearing my Tour-x - I'm going to try it with my Astro R tomorrow, but to be honest would want to use the Tour-x when traveling so will probably get the taller screen if it works... In fact I'm down in Sussex this week, might pop in and see the guys at MM... xxx |
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Further to my info below, I took the bike out for a ride this morning and there seems to be an intermittent power problem (either than or a dodgy Garmin 2610...) - possibly the earth? maybe it's not the right pin to use? (although it works) - I need to investigate further... I wish Yamaha would provide a bloody wiring diagram in the handbook... grrrrrrrr...
Will update asap. Jenny x
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What Yamaha UK say...
Right, I have a definitive answer from a tech chap at Yamaha UK...
He doesn't recommend using any of the block connectors to hook up your GPS power cable - the four pin block terminal under the seat is for the (optional) alarm and connects to the immobiliser circuit - and although I've found it offers switched power, he couldn't guarentee it would work properly or not booger something else up... So, if you want the GPS swtiched on/off with the ignition, since there are no dedicated switched terminals available, he suggests taking a live feed from the brake light circuit (this is easy to access under the seat) on the loom side, and earth direct to the battery. Sounds fair enough to me... back to the garage I go (again!) xxx (ps. Obviously if you want a permanent live feed, you can simply take it directly from the battery, or the Optimate connector on the left side frame rail). |
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The problem with wiring straight to the battery is the simple thing of if you forget to take your GPS off, it means your GPS will still be charging. If left for too long then your bikes battery might be flat/dead, which means either more money for a new battery or alot of puffing and panting trying to get it bump started. |
Well there seems to be conflicting recommendations from all of these 'experts'! I called my 'men' at Webbs this morning and they too say that I should not take power from the socket behind the cover underneath the lights but say that it will be fine if that supply which is activated by the ignition activates a relay! So I have got a 40amp relay which will power my heated jacket and the GPS, should fit under the seat. This is of course wired directly to the battery but will not be 'live' until the ignition is switched on. Anyhow I'm gonna give it a go and see how it gets on. Will keep you posted. Cheers SteveD:003:
PS The socket that I refer to is not for diagnostic purposes, that one by all accounts is underneath the seat. |
OK, so I bottled it! I have put a 40 amp relay in the system. This is now activated by the BACK LIGHT circuit, which is obviously activated by the ignition switch. This relay now gives me the power for my heated jacket and the GPS. I also have a connector that I made so that I can charge my mobile from the heated jacket harness. The relay will also be suitable to power heated grips when I fit them.
I will be going down to Peterborough tomorrow for the photo shoot with MCN (confirmed this evening) so I will report back tomorrow evening as to how things have worked. Cheers SteveD PS Paul (MM) has the crash bars to fit, a new hugger and a cover for the sidestand switch, possibly some other bits, will get pics. :mbounce: |
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