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CaptMoto 02-07-08 02:15

The Art of Cornering - Counter Steering
 
Motorcycle Counter-steering

Motorcycle Technique: Control and Swerving

Matt Finley
Feb 6, 2007

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The basics of counter-steering and getting your motorcycle to turn on a dime while at speed.
One of the most important things you’ll ever do on a motorcycle (besides braking) is to turn. Turning on a motorcycle, just like on a bicycle, requires you to lean the motorcycle in the direction you wish to turn. In order to do it safely, you should know a few things about how the motorcycle works, and what inputs are required by you to make it turn when and where you want it to.
At lower speeds, it’s pretty basic; you lean in the direction you want to turn. This is most easily done by shifting your body weight in the direction you want to turn. This doesn’t work when at higher speeds, mostly above 10-20mph, unless influenced by some outside force, such as wind or being struck from the side by something like a car.
Something many new motorcycle riders may not understand (or perhaps may not even be aware of,) is the effect of countersteering. Countersteering involves turning the front wheel in the opposite direction you want to turn the bike. That’s right, when you abruptly turn the front wheel to the right, the natural reaction of the bike is to lean to the left, in turn causing the bike to turn left.
Physicists have tried to explain in many ways just how angular impetus, torque, vectors, and gyration affect your motorcycle while at speed. We, as riders, really don’t need to bother with the physics involved in countersteering, but it is important to know the basics of how motorcycles work in order to operate it safely.
Counter-steering is achieved by turning the handle bars in the opposite direction you want to turn.How then, you might ask, does turning the front wheel in the opposite direction you want to turn, cause you to turn the direction you DO want to turn? When you’re moving at more than about 5 to 10mph, what causes you to turn is leaning. Leaning to the right will make you turn to the right. So when you’re moving and you abruptly turn the front wheel to the left by countersteering, the natural reaction of the bike is to lean in the opposite direction, which is to the right.
This happens because of the momentum caused by the wheel moving left, forcing the bike to lean (and turn) right. Just as would happen if you were traveling very fast in a car and turned the wheel to the right, provided you had enough traction. The result would be the car flipping over (leaning) to the left.
The proper use (and knowledge) of countersteering will enable you to quickly and accurately place your bike on the path you want.

Bear 02-07-08 20:17

Cor you,ve been busy Capt!

CaptMoto 03-07-08 02:58

That's right Bear, no rest for the wicked.

:660: is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you gonna get next! ;)

Bear 03-07-08 21:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMoto (Post 60729)
That's right Bear, no rest for the wicked.

:660: is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you gonna get next! ;)

SHI*E you must be busy :hahaha[1]:

motonacio 03-07-08 22:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bear (Post 60806)
SHI*E you must be busy :hahaha[1]:

Nah - he's been watching Forrest Gump!

Gerhard Beukes 03-07-08 22:51

hey!!!. this is great..more techniques and riding tips more welcome...
Captain my captian...will you be giving some monthly tips....intesting how different bikes handle offroad and road conditions diffrent...XT withy standard wheels surely diffrent than DR400 withmore offroad orientated tires....more tips welcome....
thanx
Gerhard

cca 05-10-08 21:01

Nice.
But what do you think about leaning. I have xtr and I dont know what is better on tarmac - leaning the bike under you or leaning with bike!? For off road riding it depends from aspects wich are different and maybe easier to handle (sometimes).
Also, tyre pressure. Is it so important or it is just me? Lower pressure on front tyre is killing me.
So, please, what is your experience with xtr in curve.

The Stranger 06-10-08 01:07

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Originally Posted by cca (Post 69791)
Nice.
But what do you think about leaning. I have xtr and I dont know what is better on tarmac - leaning the bike under you or leaning with bike!?

In short, the more upright the bike is the better in general.
The suspension is designed to work vertically, not horizontally.
You are less likely to scrape hard bits.
Tyres generally work better when not leant right over.
You have a greater margin for error or safety, should you need to make a correction or alter course to avoid something or should say the corner tighten on you.

So lean with the bike or kiss the inside mirror.

That said, you have plenty of ground clearance on the XT and certainly leaning the bike under you allows for quicker turning where necessary, so there are times where I use this method too.

afk40 17-12-08 22:02

http://www.lazymotorbike.eu/riding/holland/ check this out look in the margin where it talks about riding tecniuqes....JOhn


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