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gametid 12-05-17 21:08

Adventure Spec Bash plate faults
 
Hi all,

So when I got my Tenere 2~ years ago I fitted an Adventure Spec bash plate since it looked like the best one on the market and offered some pretty decent water pump protection.

Now I want to preface this by saying that I've never crashed this bike at speed. I've dropped it a number of times off road, but I've never had the full weight of the bike on the bash plate. I've dropped it once on the road at about 5ish MPH but thats it.

I would expect a bash plate of this style (and cost!) to be able to easily take the above impacts, however I went to service my Tenere today and I took the bashplate off so it'd be easier to drain the oil. Upon undoing the bashplate front mount bolt I found the following had occurred:

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4179/3...3c85089e_z.jpg

Now, obviously I can just go and weld this piece back on, and I will, but I'm a bit peeved that I spent �230 on a bash plate only for a major support to break with no major impact occurring. Has anybody else had this happen? I'm going to email Adventure Spec and see what they say about it.

Not a happy bunny! :director:

greatescape 12-05-17 22:54

I'll be interested to hear their response. ...just about to buy one! Steve

steveD 12-05-17 23:27

Yep that's the same place that mine cracked. I do have my own MIG welder so repaired it sucessfully, but the alloy brackets at the rear are also badly designed. YOU DO NOT BEND ALUMINIUM and expect it to be strong. I have had mine repaired once and it has fractured again. I will be taking off the alloy plate and making some stainless angle brackets to replace the feeble alloy ones.
The bike gets a ringing at certain speeds which prompted me to have a look at what was wrong. I actually took my bike for a service to a garage once when I was busy and he couldnt track down the fractured bracket so he jammed some foam between the crank cases and the bash plate and sprayed it black! I will not use him again!
Best of luck with AS!
Steve

jon660z 13-05-17 00:07

Well good luck with adventurespec, i had mine break at the rear alloy mounts. I made a stainless mount and rivetted it onto the alloy its lasted much longer than the standard setup. I called in as its only 10 mins from my house and was basically told because it had been used offroad that i had broken it and there was nothing they could do. Why would you fit a bashplate if not for offroad use?? The guy could clearly see it wasnt a BMW GS :043:

I asked them if they would sell me a replacement alloy plate, nope. Had to buy a full new guard. They wernt very helpful.
I also called in last week to buy a new klim lid. Basically told me they wernt a shop and i had to leave and had too buy online. I was stood in reception. Wouldnt even let me try one on for size. So i left money in pocket :violin:

I also hit a large rock a few months back that bent the steal tube into my clutch cover, smashing it. Im sure i would have done much more damage if it wasnt fitted bht i was still disapointed it didnt take the hit.

Ive also had to wedged a lump of neoprene between mine and my sump to stop it ringing like a bell on the motorway.

It came on the bike so ill live with it till it dies. Then ill make my own :drool[1]:

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 13-05-17 10:28

These aren't good endorsements for AdventureSpec.

MarkXT 13-05-17 10:51

My xt came with one fitted however it was grey so I took it off over the winter to paint it up. Now I've never had the bike off road and there is no damage on the bike to suggest it's ever had a fall off road, one of the grey plastics on the side has a graze as if it's touched the wall but that's it.
On taking the plate off not only was there are crack at the same point as yours as split but along the front tube there was complete separation

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...pskvubgo6d.jpg

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f1...ps6uzx9fhq.jpg

Replicant 13-05-17 14:24

I had been looking at getting one of these. Think I will pass for now.

greatescape 13-05-17 20:09

Not impressed with the tubing / welds etc given the price new ....it's the best looking bash plate for sure but I'd want it to be super strong for the price . Steve

Mc107 14-05-17 02:22

bboffroad.com.au/catalogsearch/result/?q=Xt660

I use these guys for my R.
The bash plate has taken a real hammering and still holding fine.

steveD 14-05-17 15:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by jon660z (Post 229794)
Well good luck with adventurespec, i had mine break at the rear alloy mounts. I made a stainless mount and rivetted it onto the alloy its lasted much longer than the standard setup. I called in as its only 10 mins from my house and was basically told because it had been used offroad that i had broken it and there was nothing they could do. Why would you fit a bashplate if not for offroad use?? The guy could clearly see it wasnt a BMW GS :043:

I asked them if they would sell me a replacement alloy plate, nope. Had to buy a full new guard. They wernt very helpful.
I also called in last week to buy a new klim lid. Basically told me they wernt a shop and i had to leave and had too buy online. I was stood in reception. Wouldnt even let me try one on for size. So i left money in pocket :violin:

I also hit a large rock a few months back that bent the steal tube into my clutch cover, smashing it. Im sure i would have done much more damage if it wasnt fitted bht i was still disapointed it didnt take the hit.

Ive also had to wedged a lump of neoprene between mine and my sump to stop it ringing like a bell on the motorway.

It came on the bike so ill live with it till it dies. Then ill make my own :drool[1]:

John, I'm with you on this one. I was actually working for Dave from Adv Spec when my knees went! I do know him quite well and have bought literally thousands of pounds worth of goods from them in the past and I have taken mates to them to get gear. But not any more, they are too big for their boots now. I got a similar rebuff when I needed some more trousers. I wanted to try some out frst asI wanted Klim agin, but NO you cannot come here anymore. I went to the Adv bke warehouse at Manchester area and got really good service.
As for the bash plate I am fortunate to be able to weld and reapair myself.
Adv spec can take a running jump.
Steve

PS John I need someone to do a bit of offroad leading when I do the rally at Dent 29th July, your prescence would be appreciated. PM me pleeeeeeease:icon_wink:

comeragh 14-05-17 15:41

Metalmule bashplate is rubbish also cracked in alot off places from vibration .
Design of it leaves alot of week areas .
Metal mule engine bars are not much better give very little protection and run to close to front so after a tiny fall they broke mudguard on full suspension compression .

Was going to replace with adventure spec but this report has changed my ideas .

attie 15-05-17 07:59

I have a Hepco and Becker on mine and it's taken quite a beating without any issues so far.


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Petenz 15-05-17 10:10

I have a B&B plate with Yamaha Tenere engine bars...
not had a issue with them...

And they do work......
http://i1244.photobucket.com/albums/...1/IMG_1025.jpg



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Gas_Up_Lets_Go 15-05-17 17:50

These failures are reminiscent of the Yamaha OEM Engine Bar failures (the ones they withdrew a few years ago). The problem is strength, there is no flex and so the vibrations destroy them.

I have a OTR bash plate, it's taken some serious hammering over the years it's been on (sine 2009). It used to have a flat bottom, now it looks like it's been shot at several times, it's in a sorry state (abuse, not failure), but the mounting s, fixings and overall functionality are as good as the day it arrived (it's the same bash plate that Jenny Morgan run on her Hero's Legends bike).

I know OTR can be a little, erm, challenging with delivery times (in the same way Touratech are) but I've had nothing but good service from them, so I can't really complain.

gametid 16-05-17 14:36

Okay, little update!

I welded the plate back together and refitted it, and then shot an email off to Adventure spec. I must say I'm brilliantly impressed with their customer service! I had a reply first thing on Monday morning (I sent the email Friday night), sent them some photos and they offered to replace the bash plate under warranty as it looks like a manufacturing defect!

Absolutely zero hassle and very friendly team by email. Couldn't be more impressed or happier! I mean, what more can you ask?!

greatescape 16-05-17 18:04

That's good customer service. ....and as it's the bash plate I'd decided on until I heard about the problems I'll give it a go. Ideally I'd like to make a 'hinged ' one as fitted to some of the earlier Dakar bikes....it swung back and doubled as a centre stand! Steve

Chalk Two 23-12-17 16:42

..came across this old thread and thought I'd add to it. My Adventure Spec plate (Tenere) failed completely at the right rear mounting lug, without suffering an impact. I heard a buzzing around the brake pedal area whilst on the move.

I could see the lug on the steel wrap-around cradle had cracked all the way through. For those that own one, you'll know what a PITA it is to get on and off but once off, out came the grinder then clamps and welder. All sorted, nice and strong, but �230????. I wouldn't buy one again based on its failure and the lack of ease of removal.

Plus, I believe, you can't add crash frames that go up around the sides of the tank because of the way AS uses the front mounts, but this may apply to other sump protection systems too.


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