I did over 60000km on a an old 750 super tenere before getting the pony. I don't miss the extra weight but the extra power and beeing able to cruise from city speed to topspeed in 5th gear.

An MT07 based tenere has the power of the old S.T. but should not be much heavier than the current single cylinder....

But again i don't know the size of the market for another F800GS competitor - it is not as big as the one for the really big ones ....

Perhaps the very large size adventure market is over saturated. If Yamaha makes the new ten too road based it will just be another gs800. I'm hoping they will keep its off road capability which will then clearly make it different. Yamaha has the off road pedigree much more so than BMW. Heck they build world beating YZs and WRs. So the parts bin is already there. The mt07 pretty much created its own market by offering a basic but perfectly working bike at more economical than the opposition. Pretty much there if you ask me

http://www.cycleworld.com/sites/cycl...EBhM_&fc=50,50

The above picture is from http://www.cycleworld.com/2017-yamah...y-photo#page-2

There is a lot of spy photos floating arround - one can hope that they can take the "cheap" mt07 engine with all the emsission things done and stick in a chassis with good enough suspension and a big tank. It does not have to be as race-ready as a ktm but hopefully capable of more than a gravel road.

But if they can do that at reasonable price the resell value of my pony will drop like a stone - the OTR price of the small pony has been lowered to just short of 15000€ (yes there is no error in that number - that us just the high danish vehicle taxes) and the new MT07 is available from just 11000€

Perhaps for a short while, but I bet not for too long. Have you seen the prices of classic bikes. Good condition '80s bikes now sell for almost the prices they went for originally. And singles do have a character of their own. Some will always love and treasure that.

I still come back to the weight of the tenere combined with the big single thump one up for 99% of my riding suits me brilliant but i still would like something that could hold having a lillion a bit better engine wise. But hay the up sides of osnering the tenere more out weigh the downsides. That and i can work on it without the need of torks keys and a computer:sign5:

I'm enjoying reading this comparison as the gs650/800 is a bike I'd like to test ride myself sometime ,along withbthe tiger 800.

Glad you like it. After observing it for 2 weeks on the road, I have come to the conclusion that the BMW is too road biased for me. But then if you never go off it some of the Beemers features start making sense. Here is a few pictures of both in Ireland. The first one is at Torr head on the Causeway Road. The second is at the harbour at Ballycastle. The petrol stop is between Derry and Donegal and the last one in Donegal centre. Hope you enjoy them.
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Sorry this is the 2 in Donegal.
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Yin or Yang

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