Thanks guys...I'll keep looking. Just been wearing my old and leaky Frank Thomas for the last five years and want to find a more 'Enduro /Dakarish jacket in Blue. Every one I find is either out of stock or discontinued. .....and Pleiades when I checked out the M.O.B website recently it had that too good to be true vibe about it, so not surprised. Rotten for the staff though.