When do we see a new Tenere?
 

Has the 'new' bike gone off the boil?
Honda look certain to be pumping out the new africa twin, are yamaha going to upgrade the 660 Tenere soon?
I was thinking of changing my 2012 bike sometime in the near future and was hoping Yamaha were going to unveil something so i dont have to buy a GS 800 and then regret it in 12 months because the new Tenere has landed.

I'm guessing (hoping) they will shoehorn the MT-07 parallel twin in there and still enable it to be LAMs compatible.
If they do that I may upgrade the old girl but realistically, my old girl and I have many miles to travel together yet!!
Matt.

My money would be on an MT07 based Tenere being launched at the Milan show in November to go on sale in early 2016. Looks likely there will also be a 690 KTM Adventure as well as the Africa Twin by then too, as well as the AJP PR7.

At last there are going to be some choices, not that I'll be splashing the cash on any of them anytime soon.

While your at it could you make 2 if it's not to much trouble...:tongue1:

My money is on a tweaked version of the MT09 - less XT, more Soft Roader.... sort of a MT-09 XT with 21/17" wheels and some longer suspenders, the same as Triumph have done with the Tigers.

It's just the way the whole market is moving, Yamaha will follow the money, not the wishes of a hardcore few.

I hope I'm wrong.


Honda's AT, it'll be nothing like people think, it's going to be governed by TUV and European type approvals that will kill it as a AT. I'm not even sure it will be a twin in the pure sense, probably a V-Twin. Heavy ABS, Traction Control and emissions equipment.

I think Triumph, BMW, Honda, Yamaha will all be a little indistinguishable from each other. The only thing that might set the AT apart is the DCT box, if they fit it.

I really hope I'm wrong.

KTM may well be the only big player in the market that will give us the bikes we desire. The smaller players will also look to cash in on the movement of the big boys into the mass areas.

Jeash, I really really hope I'm wrong.

Have to agree with you there Gas_Up_Lets_go.

Even KTM are succoming to market pressures.

I hope Yamaha keep the Tenere as a single; I think they will but not change it too much as ther're lots of their heritage linked to this bike.

I can see them expanding the MT range and dropping the Super Tenere....

[QUOTE=Gas_Up_Lets_Go;208828]My money is on a tweaked version of the MT09 - less XT, more Soft Roader.... /QUOTE]

Didn't they already do this with the MT09 Tracer?? It's very soft reader, especially with the underslung exhaust!!!
MT09 Tracer

What exactly has the T�V to do with that? Exactly, nothing. T�V just checks the road worthy. And it does not do it in Britain afaik.
You mean like European type approvals (which were also confirmed by your goverment) killed the KTM LC8 and KTM 690 Enduro R with the strongest single zylinder on the market. Or killed the BMW F800GS.
Twin is Twin IMO. It doesn't matter if its V or not.
Which heavy ABS? The type which is installed in the KTM 690 Enduro R? I think the KTM is lighter even with ABS than any XT without ABS.
You mean the emissions equipment which is already installed on all XTs?

I can't see your concern about any those points you mentioned.
The manufacurers are able to build proper offroad/adventure bikes with all your concerns fitted. BMW does it and KTM does it too. If the japanese are unable to do so, there problem. They can ask BMW and KTM how it works.

Jeash, must be something in the ether..... People are very argumentative today.

Well, the AJP PR7 looks like a good alternative in my eyes.

And i'm hoping on a real adventurous MT07 version, but on the other hand i dont, because i wont have the money for one :)

I think your best bet will be KTM or a smaller manufacturer, because it is still a niche market, the real deal adventure bike....

New tenere
 

Are Yamaha deluding themselves in thinking a softer version of the XTZ will sell loads?
Its always been a bike with a pretty focused 'niche' market, anyone who buys one tends to know exactly what its strengths and weakness are. If you want to do hundreds of motorway miles at 100 mph you dont look at a tenere 660.

My own wish list would be:-
1. Look like a proper Dakar bike.
2. Engine no bigger than 750cc.
3. Lightweight (as in no heavier than the current bike.)
4. Better biuld quality ( we all know the faults with this one.)
5. As good as the current bike at fulfilling a dual role. DONT make it into a softroader type thing, the markets full of them already
6. Simple engine that can be maintained easily (dont stuff it full of electronics that ****** up and leave you stranded.)
8. Keep the price real. My XT is a second bike used for commuting - i wont be buying one if it cost �10 k. Does anyone remember Yamahas huge price hike a few years ago, sales stopped and dealers were left with loads of stock thry couldnt shift.
7. If you need some inspiration look at the CCM 450.

Anyone got anything else to add.?

Personally I�d rather see a 700 twin rather than a 900 triple. However, what I�d really prefer is a simple single, a better version of what we have already. I�m quite happy with my 50hp (after a bit of tweaking), but I�d like to see�

1) 20Kg less weight
2) 6-speed gearbox
3) More robust final drive
4) Quality adjustable suspension
5) Better (lighter) wheels
6) Improved build quality
7) Bigger alternator output
8) More effective wind protection
9) Decent headlight
10) A fuel tank (and bodywork) that�s simpler and quicker to take off/strip down

Not much to ask really?

New tenere
 

Totally agree with all of the above

Totally agree with the para twin, and it's a much more tweak able engine too by all accounts.
Love my bike but 1-10 would make it awesome...wonder what the cost increase would be over an already expensive bike..

I did put a lot of similar points across to Yamaha when I was asked about what I liked & don't like about the Tenere with their customer follow up survey. Of which there were several. Let's see if they take any notice.

Personally I wouldn't want to much more power for off-road situation's as it could become a bit of a handful. & if Yamaha do stuff up the next Tenere then it will make the ones we own more desirable therefore holding there value.

But if big power's your thing then what about a Twin based on 2 WR 450 motors bolted together ?

Pleiades nailed it. 1-10 would suit me fine.

Mmm WR-V900...

+1 to 100 % of Plaiades expectations.

But as we discussed in Switzerland - lots of old-T�n�r�-guys are now running to the hp-pimped and weight-reduced Models from nearly every other company than Yamaha.....

Would buy a 2stroke Middle-T�n�r� with the wishes from Plaiades - otherwise will stay with my cool 660ties-babe.

Have phun with your T�n this year :chevil::tenere::chevil:

cheers, Andy