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Hunday 24-06-15 19:09

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Originally Posted by WeaveMcQuilt (Post 208379)
Hey 660'ers

I've been to see Gabe at Zen Overland recently, and he is very interested in producing poly-urethane cush drive rubbers in the UK for distribution world-wide.

After Hunday kinda dropped off the radar, I thought that this is the one thing all T�n�r� riders want.
Yes, there's farkling to be had, but this is definitely a prospect to be considered.

We're looking to you, the riders, to express your interest.
How much would you be willing to pay for something you don't have to change every 4,000 miles?

Gabe also needs a rear wheel for fitting and maybe a guinea pig for final testing.

Someone based in the south west of UK would be best, Zen Overland is based in Somerset.

Anyone who can get involved would win themselves a free set of PU rubbers, once they've been manufactured.

Hopefully, design to prototype should take about a month, so he's looking to move on this pretty quickly.

Any thoughts or interest can be left here.

Many thanks, all.

Steve.

I havent dropped off the Radar , I ve always been here !
All you had to do was send me an email.

I have now have had 1 x Xt660R ans 4 x XT660Z s , all with poly rubbers from new, and they still work well.
My first bike is stilll going with 90k on the clock And still has the poly rubbers I see, 76k on the polly rubbers and the bearing mod

aellis161 10-09-15 07:46

I'm in Bournemouth would love to help if it's not too far away! Would certainly buy some if they were on the market

dallas 10-09-15 15:49

I�d like to order a set when they�re available at a reaonable price as mentioned. Me too try to contact Hunday, but never got an answer and that�s a pity because I think he�s got a good set to offer at a reasonable price. Any progress at Zen Overland?

fridolin 10-09-15 17:44

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Originally Posted by dallas (Post 214163)
I�d like to order a set when they�re available at a reaonable price as mentioned. Me too try to contact Hunday, but never got an answer and that�s a pity because I think he�s got a good set to offer at a reasonable price. Any progress at Zen Overland?

I own a set of poly rubbers and they are worth every cent. They cost around 65 Euro incl. shipping to Europe. The rubbers have roughly 20000 km on it and no wear at all.

james milnes 10-09-15 20:54

Ditto any news on the polyurethane bushes from zen please ? Will buy some if price is not crazy.
Regards
J

Jacques le Roux 10-09-15 22:02

Just ordered some from eBay out of desperation. Got a massive shock when I wiggled my back wheel last weekend. And my bikes only done 8500 miles! But I suppose you get the soft ride and it spares the gears and drive chain. Very soft rubber on those cush drives.

Hunday 13-12-15 21:07

Polly Cush Drive Rubbers
 
My 2014 XT660Z Tenere now has 42 500km odo,and has had polyurethane rubbers from new.They are still very good

harryP 14-12-15 21:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunday (Post 216684)
My 2014 XT660Z Tenere now has 42 500km odo,and has had polyurethane rubbers from new.They are still very good

Hi Hunday, I've sent you an email for the third time in the hope that you'd send me some Poly Cush-Drive 'rubbers'.

Hunday 17-12-15 05:16

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Originally Posted by harryP (Post 216701)
Hi Hunday, I've sent you an email for the third time in the hope that you'd send me some Poly Cush-Drive 'rubbers'.

Hi HarryP
I received yr mail.tnx and retuned the ,mail the same day..
Rubbers en route.

majland 17-12-15 16:06

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Originally Posted by Hunday (Post 216761)
Hi HarryP
I received yr mail.tnx and retuned the ,mail the same day..
Rubbers en route.

I bought mine from Andy Ross (Hunday Services) in the spring of 2014 and fitted them along with a new tire at 10.000km on the odometer. I replaced the tire again at 18000km and the cush drives was still fine but have only done ~4000km since.

Still highly recommended

The origianal you will need to replace each time you replace the rear tire ...

bluext660z 15-03-16 11:39

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Hello All,
Just would like to pass on some advice if you are looking at doing the bearing mod to the cush drive, from a bad & expensive experience on the weekend that destroyed my swing arm & hub after the alloy casting broke away allowing the hub to move to the outside chewing into the swing arm & hub.
My bike had the double bearing mod (2 x 6304 2rs) that machines 15 mm out of you hub & 15 mm off the spacer leaving a small amount of alloy that stops the hub moving sideways. the better way to go may have been to use the wide alternative of the same bearing (62304-2RS) & machine out only 6mm giving a lot more support. another alternative may be to install a internal retainer clip to take some of the load if there is enough room, I have not had a chance to look at it yet but will keep up to date with how I go.
This did happen while riding in steep country with other bikes, lots of erosion mounds, and going hard with good traction, I have tried to attach some photos but no luck as yet ??

bluext660z 16-03-16 10:43

Yes, It is looking expensive and am trying to source a used swing arm, The double row SKF 22.2mm wide bearing looks to be the best option as you are very correct that there is not a lot of the body left to retain the bearings.
I was very careful when seating the bearings & not driving them home too
hard & the machining was checked both ways as to not take too much out.
I also cross referenced it before & after the mod to check for myself that the overall width had not changed.
All I can put it down to is having really good traction, damp rocky loamy ground, steep smooth hills for a long period, lots of erosion mounds, a KTM 525 just in front of me, landing off the erosion mounds then powering on hard with the wheel getting driven into the ground hard getting maximum traction & little slip in second - third gear putting huge loads on the hub.
The hub had near no play in the rubbers as I checked it the day prior riding in the Snowy Mountains, I will get it apart again shortly & add some more photos, The 2 photos that I put on in the first note are when I got home after recovering the bike & putting the wheel & hub back in the correct position. All I can say is if you have the double mod done is to keep an eye on it especially the alloy casting inside the hub for any signs of cracking off the retaining section that is about 2.5mm thick approx.
All I hope is that I can help in that we can all learn from my misfortune.

englishbandit 16-03-16 19:11

Mt03
 
Hi as the MT03 Cush drive rubbers are the same and they go at 4000 miles as well just had to gets set of OEM rubbers for the wife's mt03 I would want a set. I have the polly ones in my xt660x from South Africa I put the in 3 weeks ago. I got them off the lad if bought the bike off. He said he paid �60 for them. Delivered.

Hunday 15-07-16 00:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeaveMcQuilt (Post 208379)
Hey 660'ers

I've been to see Gabe at Zen Overland recently, and he is very interested in producing poly-urethane cush drive rubbers in the UK for distribution world-wide.

After Hunday kinda dropped off the radar, I thought that this is the one thing all T�n�r� riders want.
Yes, there's farkling to be had, but this is definitely a prospect to be considered.

We're looking to you, the riders, to express your interest.
How much would you be willing to pay for something you don't have to change every 4,000 miles?

Gabe also needs a rear wheel for fitting and maybe a guinea pig for final testing.

Someone based in the south west of UK would be best, Zen Overland is based in Somerset.

Anyone who can get involved would win themselves a free set of PU rubbers, once they've been manufactured.

Hopefully, design to prototype should take about a month, so he's looking to move on this pretty quickly.

Any thoughts or interest can be left here.

Many thanks, all.

Steve.

I havent Dropped off the radar and still supply PU Cushdrive rubbers across the globe , mainly to the Uk, AUs, and Nz

I initially posted the complete rear bearing modification and PU Rubbers conversion here on XT660.com a good few years ago.
I have owned 1 x XT660R and 3 x XT660Z Teneres, my current tenere has 55 000km on the ODO.
Look forward to keep supplying the PU Rubbers


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