short brake and clutch levers?
 

Hi Pleiades. ..thanks for link making it so easy to order some levers for the Ten!! Cheers Steve

Have you tried them on someones bike? I have a set on my Ten and I'm going to swap them off when i get a chance - they lack feel and I'm not confident that the clutch lever isnt going to let me down some day.

short brake and clutch levers?
 

Nothing like a positive outlook to star the day! ;)

I know Phil (in France) had fitted these levers to your bike, but I guess by the sound of it you haven�t actually tried the stock ones for comparison yet? Clutch �Feel� is a very personal thing � let�s not put the poor guy off before the package has even arrived! ;)

As it happens, my personal take on this, after 4 years riding with stock levers, is that the change to the short CNC levers has improved feel. If nothing else this is because they are span adjustable, unlike the stock clutch lever; I also prefer the three finger operation, in fact they are far easier to work with two, or even one finger. But it�s all relative to your anatomy, riding style/conditions and what you�re used to feeling.

Chin up lad � it might never happen! I�ve had mine fitted for over two years and about 12000 miles with no cable wear issues at all. We�ve got at least two members on RTW trips at the moment (RTW Paul and El Forko) who�ve done tens of thousands more miles with these levers fitted and again, no problems.

There were one, maybe two people if I recall, who had a cable fraying issue at the lever, but this was resolved by screwing out the adjuster at the lever end and dialling in more slack at the clutch end. I think in both these cases the levers were installed the quick way, by winding in the adjusters all the way to generate enough slack to fit the lever, which resulted in leaving the adjusters almost fully home (no thread showing between lock ring and adjuster). If the slack needed for installation is generated at the clutch end (and the adjusters at the lever end are left in their normal position) fraying is not an issue.

The moral is, when fitting new levers (or cables for that matter), do all the initial adjusting and setup at the clutch end and make sure the cable is properly lubricated. Remember, the lever end adjuster is just there for quick adjustments on the fly to accommodate clutch plate wear. Don�t cut corners and try and generate all the slack needed at the bars, or you�ll just end up with everything too tight and no room for manoeuvre.

I didn't mean to come off like Oscar the Grouch, when I was greasing and cleaning everything I found the cable had frayed to 75% at the lever end and fitted a fresh cable. I set the adjusters in the middle of their spans and everything was lovely for 1000 miles but last weekend I noticed the lever felt dry and the action wasn't smooth. I have a GSXR 1000 with shorty Pazzo levers and a ttr250 with standard levers - both bikes feel better than the xtz and I posted my original reply without all this detail. I think the shorty levers on my bike either need to be replaced or upgraded - everyone else is free to do what they like.

They do look pretty though...

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I know - I was just pulling your leg! :112:

The fraying is a valid point, and worth mentioning, but I still hold by the view that if the initial adjustment (on installation) is done correctly, there won't be a problem. What happened in the case of fraying I've seen, is the set up was not quite right to start with, the cables rubbed, then realising the clutch was getting a bit stiff, were readjusted to get the alignment right. By this point the cable strands will have been weakened or started to fray, and once they've started to go there's no way back, even after readjustment, lubrication and correct alignment is achieved.