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Simon 01-12-14 11:49
PC 5 question
 
Hey everyone,

Well Santa is being good to me this year and I've found out I've a pc5 coming my way. I know there are maps available on the supporters area so that's something for the new year.

My question is. I've been tweeking the bike making changes to the tps, co, and the kev mod, I know I need to turn the kev mod off but will I need to return the co and tps back to their original settings?

Also it being a 2006 model can I program the PC within the closed loop?

CaptMoto 01-12-14 12:33
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon (Post 204677)
Hey everyone,

Well Santa is being good to me this year and I've found out I've a pc5 coming my way. I know there are maps available on the supporters area so that's something for the new year.

My question is. I've been tweeking the bike making changes to the tps, co, and the kev mod, I know I need to turn the kev mod off but will I need to return the co and tps back to their original settings?

Also it being a 2006 model can I program the PC within the closed loop?
If you fit a Power Commander than first thing you do is remove the Kev mod, and sell it on here (once you become a supporter) then you shouldn't need to alter the TPS or or the CO because those issues before you adjust them will remain unless the bike is custom mapped by a certified Dyno Center who will take care of those adjustments.

Here's a good will advice to you, before you part with your cash check the best deal on BR Tuning (UK) rest assured I am not related in anyway with them, I don't get commissions from them, it's just that they offer the cheapest deals nationwide, you'll find them at this link: http://www.brspecialtuning.co.uk/Power%20commander.htm

Pleiades 01-12-14 20:13
Leave your CO and TPS where it is for now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon (Post 204677)
Also it being a 2006 model can I program the PC within the closed loop?
Being a 2006 model there is no closed loop! ;) The PCV's map can have complete control over the fuelling at all throttle openings/engine speeds.

Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptMoto (Post 204678)
Here's a good will advice to you, before you part with your cash check the best deal on BR Tuning (UK) rest assured I am not related in anyway with them, I don't get commissions from them, it's just that they offer the cheapest deals nationwide, you'll find them at this link: http://www.brspecialtuning.co.uk/Power%20commander.htm
...and as a Christmas treat if you enter the code "XMAS10" at the checkout you get 10% off as well! :D

Simon 01-12-14 20:51
cheers guys,

Santa had got it for me from OTR.

I've been asking local bikers and it seems no one can give offer any advice on where to go to get it tuned in my area. If i can't find some one local i may have a crack with the auto tune. i'd just either need to get a 07+ header or get someone to make the relavent changes to my existing header.

Pleiades 01-12-14 21:06
I got mine from OTR. With the exchange rate how it is at the moment they are hard to beat. With the 10% discount, BR Special Tuning come in at about the same price.

SDC Performance in Stevenage are highly recommended for Dyno work:

http://www.fasterbikes.com/

Kev 01-12-14 21:14
For the guys in Oz Motomummy.com are the cheapest at the moment send them an email to order in a European XT660R PCV they are around US$240.00 on special.

https://www.motomummy.com/dynojet-powercommanders/dynojet-powercommander-v-dual-sport/dirt/

Pleiades 01-12-14 21:19
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kev (Post 204690)
US$240.00 on special.
Hell, that's blooming cheap!

Simon 01-12-14 21:35
I guess Dynojet will charge what they think they can get away with in the given market.

Kev 02-12-14 12:21
Lucky in Oz we don't pay any import duty or taxes below a $1000.00, so most of us import from the US, a PCV here in Oz is worth $450 & $280.00 including postage from the US for the exact same part.

Simon 10-12-14 13:15
ok i've got the pc5 ready to fit tomorrow, i'm just going to go through the software tonight after dowloaing all the maps from dyno jet, but i noticed all those maps are in PC3 format? will they still work? if not can they be made to work?

sweller 10-12-14 14:16
The PC software opens and converts PC3 to PCV.

My XT is off to the dyno centre on Saturday for map tweaking and I'm also going to discuss a fuel economy map.

I do a fair bit of touring, a lot of which is boring motorway work (to get somewhere far away requires a lot of miles to be done before the interesting stuff starts) - I want to be able to switch to a map that saves me money whilst on the motorway and be able to switch back to the "fun" map when I get there.

We shall see!

Pleiades 10-12-14 17:32
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Originally Posted by sweller (Post 204870)
The PC software opens and converts PC3 to PCV.
Just a cautionary note regarding importing PC3 maps into the PCV software...

I, like many others, have never found the "File">"Import PC3USB Map" feature works too reliably; you can often get errors, particularly at the point where you try and save the imported map as a .pvm file. Basically all the import does is just reformat the cells to the PCV matrix and fills in the new 15% throttle position in the PCV map with a copy of whatever was/is the 10% trim.

Generally I've had more success by highlighting and copying the 0-10% cells in the PC3USB map, opening the PCV "Zero" map and pasting the them into it. Repeat with the 20-100% cells and manually add your own 15% trims, either by copying the 10% ones or averaging the 10 and 20% figures. You can then rename the "zero" map and save it as a PCV compatible .pvm file.

Basically, if you have trouble using the "import" tool, then try the copy and paste method.

sweller 10-12-14 19:26
I didn't seem to have a problem importing a PC3 map. Perhaps I was lucky.

Kev 11-12-14 10:57
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 204874)
Just a cautionary note regarding importing PC3 maps into the PCV software...

I, like many others, have never found the "File">"Import PC3USB Map" feature works too reliably; you can often get errors, particularly at the point where you try and save the imported map as a .pvm file. Basically all the import does is just reformat the cells to the PCV matrix and fills in the new 15% throttle position in the PCV map with a copy of whatever was/is the 10% trim.

Generally I've had more success by highlighting and copying the 0-10% cells in the PC3USB map, opening the PCV "Zero" map and pasting the them into it. Repeat with the 20-100% cells and manually add your own 15% trims, either by copying the 10% ones or averaging the 10 and 20% figures. You can then rename the "zero" map and save it as a PCV compatible .pvm file.

Basically, if you have trouble using the "import" tool, then try the copy and paste method.
Update your PCV to the latest firmware: the latest firmware is V1.10.6
http://www.powercommander.com/powercommander/Downloads/powercommander_downloads.aspx?ProdType=PCV

Pleiades 11-12-14 23:10
I'll have a look...

Simon 12-12-14 01:44
well so far i've just stuck with the supplied map as it was closest to my set up and so far i can't see any need to change it yet but cheers for all the hints so far guys.


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