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Locky 13-04-14 18:35

Sprocket carrier bearing ..
 
Mine gave up today , was on my way back home from a ride and started to hear a strange noise . Checked it over when i got home and there's a nasty noise when i turn the wheel and play in the sprocket carrier ..

Anyone know the bearing dimentions ?

Locky 13-04-14 19:04

I've found the size but there seems to be options .
Whats the best one to get from this list ?
Think i'll get a spare too ..
http://simplybearings.co.uk/shop/adv...04-2rs&x=0&y=0

Will i need to renew the seal ? If so what size ?

Pleiades 15-04-14 00:49

Just avoid C3 high clearance bearings - they have built in play/slop from new! ;)

I tend to use SKF bearings, but that's just personal preference.

If the seal is at all damaged or has gone hard, then it'll need replacing, but even if it looks OK, it's probably prudent to replace it given the cost. Don't quote me, but as far as I can recall it's a 7mm wide seal...

WeaveMcQuilt 18-04-14 22:43

http://www.yamahamotorcyclespares.co...%20wheel?uID=0

Bearing seals are on this page. Not too cheap for a bit of rubber.


For SKF bearings, get them from bearing boys.
�26 delivered for the whole set.

Front and rear:
http://www.bearingboys.co.uk/6203-2R...Bearing-1889-p

Sprocket carrier:
http://www.bearingboys.co.uk/6304-2R...Bearing-1930-p


Then, do your own greasing:

http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=19728

Pleiades 19-04-14 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeaveMcQuilt (Post 198975)
http://www.yamahamotorcyclespares.co...%20wheel?uID=0

Bearing seals are on this page. Not too cheap for a bit of rubber.

No need to pay Yamaha prices for the seals, you can order them along with your bearings for a couple of quid from simplybearings.

sweller 19-04-14 20:51

These are the wheel bearing dimensions:

Hub bearings : 6203-2RS
Sprocket carrier: 6304-2RS

Seals:
23 x 40 x 7 disc side rear.
30 x 52 x 7 on the sprocket carrier.

I've just replaced mine (preventative maintenance!) with SKF sourced from a local bearing factor - total cost for the full rear (three bearings and two seals) was �25.

The fronts are also 6203-2RS and two 23x40x7 seals.

WeaveMcQuilt 19-04-14 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by sweller (Post 199001)
These are the wheel bearing dimensions:

Hub bearings : 6203-2RS
Sprocket carrier: 6304-2RS

Seals:
23 x 40 x 7 disc side rear.
30 x 52 x 7 on the sprocket carrier.

I've just replaced mine (preventative maintenance!) with SKF sourced from a local bearing factor - total cost for the full rear (three bearings and two seals) was �25.

The fronts are also 6203-2RS and two 23x40x7 seals.


Important info every Ten owner should have.

Thanks!

(still taking mine to a mechanic to get them changed.... not sure I'm up to the task!)

aliwakeskate 12-08-14 23:13

Just about to replace the bearings on my wheels and have found the correct SKF bearings on the bearingboys website but can't seem to find the seals. I know what the sizes are from the above posts, but does anyone know if the seals on the tenere are the R21 (single lip) or R23 (twin lip) type?

Also, anyone know anywhere else to get the seals online as simplybearings and bearingboys don't have the 23x40x7 seal in stock?

Cheers,

Al

Pleiades 13-08-14 00:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by aliwakeskate (Post 202118)
Just about to replace the bearings on my wheels and have found the correct SKF bearings on the bearingboys website but can't seem to find the seals. I know what the sizes are from the above posts, but does anyone know if the seals on the tenere are the R21 (single lip) or R23 (twin lip) type?

I used R23

Quote:

Originally Posted by aliwakeskate (Post 202118)
Also, anyone know anywhere else to get the seals online as simplybearings and bearingboys don't have the 23x40x7 seal in stock?

Try www.bearing-king.co.uk

aliwakeskate 13-08-14 00:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 202120)
I used R23



Try www.bearing-king.co.uk

Legend Pleiades! Cheers for that.

ssj_Gill 13-08-14 11:48

me too
 
just got back from a 3 week tour of scandinavia and my rear wheel bearing gave up the ghost in bumble **** Denmark. damn thing smashed to pieces during a hard, banked turn and nearly bucked me off. major brown trouser time!

aliwakeskate 13-08-14 12:37

Anyone looking for the seals - I've just ordered them from Lancashire seals here:

Disc Side: 23x40x7mm
Sprocket side: 30x52x7mm

�8.55 delivered for the full set front and rear. Thanks for the help guys!

Schnidely 23-03-15 01:33

Hey guys, am just about to have my sprocket carrier lathed out to hold the 4304-2RS double row bearing. Some have suggested lathing 5mm. Problem is the difference between the standard 6304-2RS and the new bearing is 6mm. Guess 6mm machining it is then for me. Anyone experience similar differences?

Schnidely 23-03-15 12:03

Also my sprocket carrier where the bearing sits in is quite warn. The bearing slips in and out easily. Am going to use retaining compound medium strength to hold it firmly in place. Have some poly urethane rubbers to go in so looking forward to feeling the difference.

Pasta 29-04-16 22:02

I want to do some preventative maintenance as well and I'm thinking of replacing all the bearings on the bike. This way I will know what mileage they have on them in the future.

What I have so far is the two bearings on the front wheel, the two in the handlebars/forks, the two in the rear wheel and then two in the swing arm.

Am I missing any?

Pleiades 30-04-16 23:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta (Post 221091)
I want to do some preventative maintenance as well and I'm thinking of replacing all the bearings on the bike. This way I will know what mileage they have on them in the future.

What I have so far is the two bearings on the front wheel, the two in the handlebars/forks, the two in the rear wheel and then two in the swing arm.

Am I missing any?

Yeah... Nine bearings (and two bushes) ;)

There are two more in/under the swingarm where the dog bones mount to it and don't forget the six in the suspension linkage relay. Also you may need the two bushes to go with the two swingarm pivot bearing. You haven't mentioned the sprocket carrier bearing either. Do you REALLY need to replace them all?

Pasta 02-05-16 14:31

Probably not. I was thinking of changing the ones I mentioned for my peace of mind. I don't know if they were ever checked or replaced at the intervals stated in the manual. I'll also have to do the others you mentioned except for the suspension linkage relay. That will depend on how much work it is.

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Pleiades 02-05-16 15:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta (Post 221131)
Probably not. I was thinking of changing the ones I mentioned for my peace of mind. I don't know if they were ever checked or replaced at the intervals stated in the manual. I'll also have to do the others you mentioned except for the suspension linkage relay. That will depend on how much work it is.

TBH, the wheel bearings are fairly easy to do and don't seem to give up any quicker than on any other bike. You're probably better off leaving them until they show signs of trouble. Same with the sprocket carrier bearing really. I know some have had them collapse with some disastrous results, but it's fairly easy to change and they do last if the chain is correctly aligned and cush rubbers are regularly changed, packed out or fitted with polyurethane items.

It is the headrace, swingarm, relay bearings that are the real issue on these bikes as, unless attended to early, will not last and (particularly the swingarm pivots) can be a real ball-ache to do if the swingarm through bolt gets seized in the bushes/inner races. Preventative maintenance is key to long service life. It is definitely worth putting in the effort here.

My headrace, swingarm pivot bearing/bushes and the relay bearings are all original, 8 years old and have covered about 34K miles. I can only think they've done so well because I stripped it all down and greased them at around 10K miles. I've stripped them one further time (at about 22K) and they're were in far better nick than they were on the original strip down. I also removed all the crappy MPL solid lubricant the second time round too. Both times all the seals were replaced and waterproof grease used.

I would recommend focussing any preventative bearing maintenance on headrace and swingarm/relay, especially if you don not know when it was done, if its ever been done at all? You will reap the benefits of your efforts in the long term.

Ohlins wrote an excellent walkthrough guide on doing the swingarm and relay. Have a look and see what is involved:

http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=25584

Pasta 02-05-16 16:14

Thanks Pleiades. Sensible reply, as always. I think I'll give it all a good clean and grease with the guide from Ohlins. That is a great guide indeed.

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