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weeksy 17-02-14 13:24

Rubbsh rubbish brakes on my X ?
 
Took my X out for the first time yesterday since buying it in Nov.

I noticed very early on in the ride that my brakes are just rubbish... i mean properly properly RUBBISH.

Now i don't recall my other X's having rubbish brakes...

I have got fitted the Chinese Pazzo style levers... they're shorty version.. which may play a factor. I went straight on-line last night and bought new pads for the front as a precaution...

Lever is consistent, so not an 'air' thing....

Just wondering really if anyone else has noticed theirs being rubbish ?

bikemad195 17-02-14 14:04

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Originally Posted by weeksy (Post 197262)
Took my X out for the first time yesterday since buying it in Nov.

I noticed very early on in the ride that my brakes are just rubbish... i mean properly properly RUBBISH.

Now i don't recall my other X's having rubbish brakes...

I have got fitted the Chinese Pazzo style levers... they're shorty version.. which may play a factor. I went straight on-line last night and bought new pads for the front as a precaution...

Lever is consistent, so not an 'air' thing....

Just wondering really if anyone else has noticed theirs being rubbish ?

Bleed them anyway still makes huge diffrence and i run brembo carbon ceramic pads and its stop on a penny also try degresasing youre disk incase something is on it

weeksy 17-02-14 14:07

yeah disk is deffo on the job list once i get the new pads in the caliper...

k1322 17-02-14 14:19

First time i rode my R i also got the impression of "WTF!?". Didnt really do any hard breaking until i brought the bike home. New pads, new steel braided line at front and new fluid did improve it a lot.

bikemad195 17-02-14 14:26

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Originally Posted by k1322 (Post 197267)
First time i rode my R i also got the impression of "WTF!?". Didnt really do any hard breaking until i brought the bike home. New pads, new steel braided line at front and new fluid did improve it a lot.

Its knowen with the r but the xxxx is normaly fine

weeksy 17-02-14 14:29

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Originally Posted by bikemad195 (Post 197268)
Its knowen with the r but the xxxx is normaly fine


In my defence, i've owned 3 other XTX's.... so it's not just a case of me getting used to a new single disk system etc.

CaptMoto 17-02-14 15:15

Standard OEM rubber hoses are known for being built below par in as much as you can see the hoses expanding when pulling the brakes lever hard, I recommend you invest in some decent braided hose and you will see your breaking improve 10 folds. I assure you that is the only cure.

Go on line to HEL brakes they have made by measure lines for both front and rear hoses at the link below:

http://www.helperformance.com/hel-br...2004-2010.html

Good luck

weeksy 17-02-14 15:28

i thought the X comes with braided lines mate ?

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps5a82283f.jpg

CaptMoto 17-02-14 15:35

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Originally Posted by weeksy (Post 197273)
i thought the X comes with braided lines mate ?

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...ps5a82283f.jpg

Yes only the front line is braided, I meant the back hose, but the thing is, it is more convenient to change both for a better quality than the original.

waynovetten 17-02-14 15:36

Short levers are great with quality brakes but need as much leverage as you can get on the XT brakes and you ain't going to that with short levers,but they do look nice we've all been there at some time or other with fashion over function.

weeksy 17-02-14 15:43

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Originally Posted by waynovetten (Post 197276)
Short levers are great with quality brakes but need as much leverage as you can get on the XT brakes and you ain't going to that with short levers,but they do look nice we've all been there at some time or other with fashion over function.

I bought short as that was the only link i found... but the standar lever didn't seem to offer an improvement when i first tested the bike (only for 1 mile).

I didn't think i'd be able to fit longer ones due to having the handguards fitted.

However, the handguards are being removed next week as they really do affect the handling badly at full throttle and 70-90mph i think. I felt the same on other X's and felt the same yesterday, they sort of amplify any movement, espeically mid corner adjustments, they make them worse.

The choice then will be, do the pads improve things... if not... i'll get an Accosatto radial or Brembo RCS...

but i was also looking at these MAguras.... nice...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MAGURA-13M...#ht_745wt_1399

weeksy 17-02-14 15:48

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Originally Posted by CaptMoto (Post 197275)
Yes only the front line is braided, I meant the back hose, but the thing is, it is more convenient to change both for a better quality than the original.

I don't use the back mate, it's of no significance to me regarding my concerns...

I'm hoping the pads will sort me out... possibly a bleed too.

weeksy 22-02-14 15:31

Fitted the new SBS brake pads today... JEEEZ !!! The difference is immense... the bike actually stops perfectly now. (Well, after a minor issue with the spring in the lever). It would appear the Brembo pads that were fitted must have somehow become contaminated in the past.


Also removed the handguards and lowered the pressures slightly, both of these make a massive difference overall to the handling and the bike is now riding brilliantly :)
Top day :)

bikemad195 22-02-14 15:42

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Originally Posted by weeksy (Post 197441)
Fitted the new SBS brake pads today... JEEEZ !!! The difference is immense... the bike actually stops perfectly now. (Well, after a minor issue with the spring in the lever). It would appear the Brembo pads that were fitted must have somehow become contaminated in the past.


Also removed the handguards and lowered the pressures slightly, both of these make a massive difference overall to the handling and the bike is now riding brilliantly :)
Top day :)

yep they must be contaminated cos i run brembo carbon ceramics and there awesome! glad your customising it for youre own riding style and needs btw i tend to run 28 in the front and 24 in the back on my bridgestone battleaxes


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