Lithium Batteries
 

I've read War and Piece on such over the last twelve months and in the end there's only one way to find out turned up today even on our bathroom scales the original battery comes in a 3kilos and the lithium can barely move the needle but hopefully I'll get them weighed properly tomorrow and having loaned out my tester I'll check the voltage( it tells you too on the clues) as well before fitting,it looks like and interesting learning curve.

Interesting to see how it cycles, cranks and handles long loads from accessories etc, curious about the results myself.
Do you have a link or number for the exact battery?
Please keep us informed as to how it goes!
Matt.

As far as im aware lithion technolgy puts the same power out right till then end and then suddenly cuts off so you wouldnt get warnings like alow cranking it would just stop all power

Just go into ebay and put lithium battery XT660 it'll show your options,I didn't get mine from there but it gives you an idea

Hence why I'm trying one on my XT first to see how it goes,but having ridden down to Portsmouth a couple of years ago on a K1200r stopped for fuel at Sutton Scotney and then a top up at the Shell garage just around the corner from the docks the battery completely fell off a cliff absolutely stone dead so I can tell you gell batteries most certainly stop all power with no warning.

I had a Shoria lithium iron battery in my 990 SMR for 20 months & transferred the same battery to my 990 SMT for the past 10 months & not had one problem with the battery, I know guys have had problems in colder countries where the lithium iron batteries don't like the cold.

Stock battery came in at 3.4k the Lithium was 671grams

Nice weight saving.

It's a step in the right direction,I've been doing some work about either converting the wheels to tubleless or changing the rims as I try to get the bike on a diet.

Re the battery just got fed up the best thing since slight bread against the cost too much no advantage brigade's and found out myself.

Well the bike has been stood since mid November hardly poor storage as my garage is the same temp as the living room put the key in the ignition and after realising the kill switch was on!!! went first push of button

Can you charge the lithuim type battery with a standard Accumate/Optimate or normal lead-acid battery charger?

No you can't.


Check this thread for more info. It's long, but got loads of info:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=757934

And check out:
http://www.optimate1.com/lithium-starter-batteries

The SSB I have can charge through any charger.
http://www.hollyhockbatteries.com.au...-KTM300-2.html

I'll digress for mo because up until recent the 60,0000 dollar question do they work and do they work in the cold the answer is yes to both what they don't is any kind of long term storage in the that's from my experience and others I know.

As for charging hmmmmm my info tells me yes you charge them but only with an old style battery charger not a tender because if the tender goes into disulphate mode then their be kaput.

As I put in my post I left mine to stand over the winter to see how it fared and it's been good for the sake of a lithium battery tender at 50 quid or so that'll be the route I'm going because I think within a few years both the lead acid and the gel versions will be long gone.

Here we are 2 years on and its as good as the day I bought it,I have actually bought a lithium optimate charger not that it needed it but took the battery off just give it a charge when I put it back on the bike missed the wire from the PC so when I came to start it it spun the motor over for as long as it took for me to work it out!!!.

The XT has been the guinea pig for the other bikes and this year I'll change all of them over its been that good.

Do you have any spots, heated grips etc running on the bike? I read somewhere that if you do short trips or low speeds daily or have extras like I mentioned above the battery will not last.

I'd like to give a lithium battery a try but I have heated grips and led spots running and sometime a GPS.

No I don't,but on another forum I used to run a group buy with Odyssey batteries and I had guys complain because they did a 5 mile ride to work with such and they could flatten a PC680.

If you take a charge out then you need to put one in lead acid/gel/lithium no matter what.

I read an article in Motorcycle Sport and Leisure earlier last year about compairing a lithium against conventional and it was saying how a lithium will give 100% even if it's about to go belly up,I had a gel on my k1200 and it went belly up after 175 mile ride to Portsmouth we stopped at the shell garage at the docks and when I came to start it was absolutely stone dead so I have no fears with a lithium well not now anyway,no better or worse as far as dropping of a cliff is concerned.

The only thing I will say fitting a lithium was all part of shedding weight off my X,it's a fat old bus at best and that was my main reason,the fact that it works better and looks as though it will last as long as anything else is a bonus.

I guess that this is due to the high power consumption. The lithium batteries have an intelligent electronic that is balancing the charging process of the cells in the battery. A lithium battery keeps it voltage higher than a lead battery under high power consumption.

When you now use your heated grips which is a lot of power when they are in the preheat state. The voltage of the alternator will drop and must have been in the described cases too low to charge the battery. Because as soon as the alternator voltage is lower than the battery voltage, the battery wont get charged anymore and even gets discharged. Due to the fact that the engine start also needs a lot of power the battery drains every time you use it on such a short trip in winter times (plus the capacity is less in cold condition).

And in the end the circuit in the battery will protect it cells from discharging to low. So it will just stop from one moment to the other (no worries you just have to charge the battery again).

So I guess if you drive the bike from time to time more than 5 or 10 minutes it wont be a problem at all. Or you just leave the heated grips off for such a short time (when you only drive 5 minutes your hands anyway wont get cold).

I gave my work WR250R a Li battery due to the fact that, imo, this bike is under-batteried in the cold cranking amp department.

Periodically, I leave the bike unstarted for up to 2 months. Even with a fresh charge in the oem battery, the engine will fire but not run. Then it floods, and blah blah blah.

Li battery? Much higher cold cranking amps give a faster spin and instant start. Happy owner. With complete confidence, I'll give the Tenere an Li when the oem cacks it.

So far, the Li battery has endured coldish temps by our standards, say +5degC. Then it has suffered in indeterminate number of hours (always seems more than it it really is, but about 100) of +50degC or more (measured by backpack-mounted Garmin sender communicating with a 62S GPS). I should log this stuff, but due to approaching my melting point, I get the coombies. (For non Australians, this means coomby f****d).

Still a few weeks till its be on the bike 3 years and as good as ever I've had it on charge twice in that time with a lithium charger and even then only did it out of curiosity

Here we are again another year and still going strong

Wayno, what model Li Batt did you buy?

Just this message got my sold.

have been thinking about it ever since i bought the xt.
But the positive outway the negative more and more.

I have had one of these Okyami LiFePO4 batteries for 4 years with no issues at all.

https://www.motoshopitalia.com/batte...-ytx7a-bs.html

There are usually two Ahrating per size of battery box, which is why some of the battery sellers are complete con artists now a days.
Just make sure you get the bigger amp hour rating for good value.
And check the capacity, as very hard to tell by weight.