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WeaveMcQuilt 13-01-14 23:36

Rear Sprocket Hub disintegrating?
 
So, I'm doing my chain and sprockets today.

Haven't taken the sprocket carrier off in around 7,000 miles, I did take the rear wheel off for greasing before winter so I was expecting to see the cush drive rubbers a bit ******ed.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...22-resized.jpg

Actually, apart from separation, they don't look too bad. Packing them out with rubber really does its trick!

Going to change them anyway. New ones from AJ Sutton.



Well, as you expect, inside the sprocket hub is some horrible baked on rubber (*should have cleaned this out when I changed them last time!)

BUT also, what appears to be a crusty metallic residue.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...17-resized.jpg


It's all over the bearing, and inside the hole where the sprocket carrier meets the hub.

Some scuffing on the hub here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...18-resized.jpg


So, it's cleaning up OK. Got the paraffin out and a toothpick for that baked on crud

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...20-resized.jpg


But this metallic residue and wear does slightly concern me.
Any ideas?

I wouldn't have thought the movement of the sprocket carrier in the hub can create this sort of friction... There isn't enough movement with the cush drive all packed out.

minkyhead 13-01-14 23:41

it looks ok now is cleaned up what you see is pretty normal the cush drives are poor ...
lots of guys use old bike inner tubes to pack them ...ive found that cushionfloor works real welll packem out use a bit soapy water and bang the sprocket housing in with a block of wood job done :icon_mrgreen:

WeaveMcQuilt 13-01-14 23:49

Yeah, I've had the inner tube in there since I changed them about 7,000 miles ago.
And I know the rubbers disintegrate, not worried about them.. they're �20 :)

But it's that dry metal dust that worries me.

You can see in the pic with the red arrow, that there's scuffing all around that hub and its receiving hole in the sprocket carrier.

These two surfaces are clearly rubbing together. It's not rubber crap like in the spaces for the cush rubbers. It's definitely a metallic dust.

That's going to be a pig to clean, as I hope it doesn't enter the bearing.
First thing tomorrow, I'll have a crack at that.

brmourato 14-01-14 12:17

I've also done this to my bike yesterday and I also noticed that metallic residue...
My bike has almost 20000km and this set of cush drive rubbers has almost 10000km. I've done the mod and now expect them to last another 10000km at least.
Here are the pictures:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/IMAG0274.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/IMAG0277.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/IMAG0279.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/IMAG0278.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...e/IMAG0280.jpg

WeaveMcQuilt 14-01-14 15:31

Yeah, yours looks the same as mine.
That grey metallic crust inside the sprocket carrier..

I've also noticed that my outer brake pad (the one next to the caliper piston) on rear is nearly worn, but the inner seems close to new.

I'm going to have a wild guess that my chain adjusters were out of sync (although i'm pretty certain I did them up exactly the same)

Still confused by this.

Everything is back together now, detergent in the hub to get it back together and a block of wood and a hammer!

The back wheel is a bit of a pig to put on when the rubbers are packed out like that! (working by myself, anyway)
It's just a few mm too wide!

In the end, I used the same block of wood to rest the tyre on, so I could hold both spacers, fit the caliper onto its runner and then stick a long screwdriver under the wood block to lever the tyre up into position using my foot!

Where there's a will, there's a way!

brmourato 14-01-14 15:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeaveMcQuilt (Post 196131)
Yeah, yours looks the same as mine.
That grey metallic crust inside the sprocket carrier..

I've also noticed that my outer brake pad (the one next to the caliper piston) on rear is nearly worn, but the inner seems close to new.

I'm going to have a wild guess that my chain adjusters were out of sync (although i'm pretty certain I did them up exactly the same)

Still confused by this.

Change them aside.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeaveMcQuilt (Post 196131)
Everything is back together now, detergent in the hub to get it back together and a block of wood and a hammer!

The back wheel is a bit of a pig to put on when the rubbers are packed out like that! (working by myself, anyway)
It's just a few mm too wide!

In the end, I used the same block of wood to rest the tyre on, so I could hold both spacers, fit the caliper onto its runner and then stick a long screwdriver under the wood block to lever the tyre up into position using my foot!

Where there's a will, there's a way!

You bet! It has a pain in the ass to put the wheel in place. I'm also working alone...
I managed to do it using zip ties to hold the cush drive cover in place.

PhilinFrance 14-01-14 18:15

I did this
http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?...light=silicone

Theory is the silicone fills all the gaps !!!

Only covered 1500kms ish so not bothered looking yet , i'll give it another 4k or 5k and see whats happend

Phil

redbikejohn 14-01-14 23:14

If one pad is wear quicker then your brake caliper needs a service. The sliding pins should be lubricated. Its best to pull the two sides of the caliper apart and clean then pop some heat resistant grease into the rubber cups where the sliders go. Not too much though as it can restrict full movement if too full.

Ni3ous 16-01-14 01:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by WeaveMcQuilt (Post 196103)
So, I'm doing my chain and sprockets today.


Some scuffing on the hub here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...18-resized.jpg

This is caused because of faulty wheel bearing (s).
For sure you need to change sprocket hub bearing, maybe also other two.

brmourato 16-01-14 12:53

After how many kms (+/-) should we replace the bearings?
Mine as 20k km.


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