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Gibbo1974 25-09-13 14:28

Lights !!
 
Hi Guys,

Went for a cup of tea at a truck stop last night and met up with a couple of pals..

Long story short we drank tea and decided to go back via the green lanes and forests....it was gone 9pm so dark.

One thing became immediately apparent and that is that the main beam on the Tenere is next to useless.

Can anyone recommend a specific make of spot light they have fitted and tested ?

I'd like to go for LED if possible.

p.s. it was foggy too, it was very cool riding through muddy forest track at night. quite moody.

pps we did not tear it up and make a load of noise and a nuisance of ourselves, our tracks hardly go past any houses.

duibhceK 25-09-13 16:13

The VisionX Solstice or Denali seem to be the most commonly used. But they are bloody expensive.
You could get some cheaper Chinese Cree LED lights of ebay. Both VisionX and Denali use the same LEDs as the chinese ones anyway. You'd have to do your own wiring/relais/switch tinkering though.

thebiker 25-09-13 16:56

Just fitted these from Halfords

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/s...egoryId_272451

SingleMinded 25-09-13 17:54

I used to have a set of Xenon (low and high beam) and modded the light switch such that low beam stays on when high beam is switched on...

... MASSIVE FLOOD OF LIGHT!!!:eek2:

redbikejohn 25-09-13 23:00

try these or ones like it. i have 1500LM and they are very good


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-1800Lm-...item3a62f21f94

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 26-09-13 09:25

I've used a few different types.

Halfords Ring Ice : These were the cheapest and best solution I found. More light on the road than LED's but they use more power. I sold them when I got the VisionX

VisionX Solstice : Expensive, and I'm glad I bough them second hand, because they are abysmal at getting the light on to the road and I would have cried if I'd paid full price for them. Yes they are very bright when you look at them. The upside is they run on next to nothing and make great Daytime Running Lights.

Halfords super cheap (�15 if I remember) : These were great at getting light down, again they use much more power than LED's and the quality wasn't great. The reason I don't have them now is because the lights fell apart....

Today I have nightbreaker bulbs fitted to the headlights. These are perfectly adequate for my riding style (I'm not concerned with what is in the dark patch in front of the bike as long as I have some middle distance light). I have the VisionX LEDs as DRL's They help to fill in the gap left when main beam comes on.

[Visionx might actually be Xvision - I can never remember!]

Gibbo1974 26-09-13 11:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by SingleMinded (Post 192374)
I used to have a set of Xenon (low and high beam) and modded the light switch such that low beam stays on when high beam is switched on...

... MASSIVE FLOOD OF LIGHT!!!:eek2:

That sounds good, can you detail the mod to the switch, I'd probably be happy enough if they both stayed on as it happens...

Did you use proper Xenon's with ballasts etc or the Xenon (not real xenon) bulbs???

cheers.

SingleMinded 26-09-13 18:58

the real thing.

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto650-PWRAHPDW.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto650-EFSJKGV8.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto650-A6EI6F6D.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto650-PLHKQTRW.jpg

http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Foto650-T3BOMEDO.jpg

HJ

PhilinFrance 26-09-13 20:16

Great pics but can you explain what you did please ?
Phil

Pleiades 26-09-13 21:28

Both the green and light blue wires terminals in the switch need to be connected together. That's what Singleminded has done.

If you don�t fancy breaking into the switch and soldering, you can achieve the same effect, by bridging the light blue and green wires on the switch side of the lighting loom�s connector under the tank with a Scotchlok. The connector is by the top of the radiator on the right hand side under a rubber boot. However, you do have to take the tank off! Do whichever is easier for you.

PhilinFrance 26-09-13 21:42

Cheers Pleiades
Having both dip and high on at the same time just makes sence
Phil

majland 26-09-13 21:44

I've considered going with an H7 LED as main beam and then a 35W or 50W XENON as high beam. With the mod to high/low control it does'nt matter that it will tale a second to light up the xenon. With a 12W led and a 35W xenon the load would not even be higher than standard.

LED:
http://www.arrow.rs/cene/katalog6.pdf
http://everlight.dk/led-autopaerer/l...lys-5500k.html
http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/710-51...2F271218708145
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...tchlink:top:en

With above kits for two H7 leds - Maybe one could just rewire the switch to switch between high and low on the same control circuit

Xenon:
http://www.hid50.co.uk/ultra50.html

Pleiades 26-09-13 22:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilinFrance (Post 192444)
Having both dip and high on at the same time just makes sence

The only other thing to consider if doing the linked high/low mod is that the light blue wire (the main incoming 12V supply from the relay) will carry twice the current that it did before when main beam is on (9A instead of 4.5A). I would not advice running bulbs over 55W in either main or dip. 100W bulbs with this arrangement would be stretching the wiring, relay and charging system to the limit � a pair of 100W bulbs will draw 16A.

I never have understood why the headlight fuse is 20A on the Z because the cross-sectional area of the cable used in the circuit is 1mm squared, which has a maximum capacity of 16.5A? You would have thought a 15A fuse would have been more appropriate.

peds650 27-09-13 11:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 192443)
Both the green and light blue wires terminals in the switch need to be connected together. That's what Singleminded has done.

If you don�t fancy breaking into the switch and soldering, you can achieve the same effect, by bridging the light blue and green wires on the switch side of the lighting loom�s connector under the tank with a Scotchlok. The connector is by the top of the radiator on the right hand side under a rubber boot. However, you do have to take the tank off! Do whichever is easier for you.

Just to let you know, you can do the Scotchlok method with out removing the tank, you can access the loom and plug from underneath the front cowl, just have the steering over to the left. Done in 5 minutes :003:

PhilinFrance 27-09-13 16:46

Cheers mate , i like easy :thumbsup:

WeaveMcQuilt 28-09-13 14:44

http://www.bikevis.com/

^ A good range of little lights for yer bikes.

SingleMinded 28-09-13 15:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 192446)
The only other thing to consider if doing the linked high/low mod is that the light blue wire (the main incoming 12V supply from the relay) will carry twice the current that it did before when main beam is on (9A instead of 4.5A). I would not advice running bulbs over 55W in either main or dip. 100W bulbs with this arrangement would be stretching the wiring, relay and charging system to the limit � a pair of 100W bulbs will draw 16A.

I never have understood why the headlight fuse is 20A on the Z because the cross-sectional area of the cable used in the circuit is 1mm squared, which has a maximum capacity of 16.5A? You would have thought a 15A fuse would have been more appropriate.

:iamwithstupid:

I had two 35W Xenon HID lights, so less current then the original double 55W lights. But I know that people have used this mod with the original lighting without any trouble. Notice that you don't often ride with high beam for a long period of time.

HJ

WeaveMcQuilt 13-10-13 14:51

Thanks, singleminded for this quick and simple fix.

I undid two screws to get into the headlight switch box.
Unsoldered the blue wire, stripped it back a centimetre.
Resoldered it to the green wire and its original contact.

Put it all back together in under 5 minutes.


MASSIVE FLOOD OF LIGHT!

Saved me a hundred quid, thanks!

PhilinFrance 13-10-13 17:08

This is a great idea but i've just put two "night breaker" bulbs in !!! will this cook anything joining the two wires !!!

Sorry i'm just a rag arse brickie and now nawt about electrics !!

Phil

Pleiades 13-10-13 17:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilinFrance (Post 192944)
This is a great idea but i've just put two "night breaker" bulbs in !!! will this cook anything joining the two wires !!!

You'll be fine if they're 55W bulbs.

WeaveMcQuilt 13-10-13 19:07

I have Philips X-Treme Vision lamps in mine, 55W each.

Had both beams on for about 20mins last night (i live in the country, like)

No problems, just bright light :)

PhilinFrance 13-10-13 20:24

Yep 55w so looks a goer

Cheers Phil

Posiden 15-10-13 23:42

I'm still using the little spot lights off eBay: item number -330794671545 and they've dropped in price to �40 a pair.

redbikejohn 15-10-13 23:59

been using similar lightsto these for the last two years.....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4X6W-4-LED...item4177cf011b


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