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thebiker 11-09-13 13:43

Kev

The PDF link comes back to the O2 controller.

Pete

Ohlins 11-09-13 14:20

I use normal Lm type grease...light bearing erase..the sort you find in any autoparts store...I have also used water proof grease in the past in my off road moto's....I usually strip an off road moto down twice per year and once per year for a road moto...of course it depends how wet the going is annually

As for the bearing cages..personal choice I'd say..I'd rather see them filled with grease than running almost dry...(at the end of the day they're standard needle bearings with nothing radical or special about them IMO)


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Eddiw 20-09-13 05:26

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I have removed the swingarm and the "elbow" now and have cleaned it. I tried not to remove the silicon cage but when I left it there there is too little space for the grease so all grease will be pressed out when inserting the metal sticks again..

It is also very easy to actually destroy the silicon cage.. I did this in the swingarm bearings.. So I did just as you did, removed the silicon cage and cleaned the needles and put grease in there instead. It is very very tight with the grease and the rollers can not move from on side to the other so I don't think it is a problem. When I press the metal stick back in, it feels very very tight.

Have you had any problems with your bearings yet Ohlin?
I will try this solution. Easier to maintain.. The silicon cage or whatever it is is, as said, very hard not to destroy when inserting the metal stick back in..

Eddiw 20-09-13 05:34

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Originally Posted by Ohlins (Post 191782)
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I have removed the swingarm and the "elbow" now and have cleaned it. I tried not to remove the silicon cage but when I left it there there is too little space for the grease so all grease will be pressed out when inserting the metal sticks again..

It is also very easy to actually destroy the silicon cage.. I did this in the swingarm bearings.. So I did just as you did, removed the silicon cage and cleaned the needles and put grease in there instead. It is very very tight with the grease and the rollers can not move from on side to the other so I don't think it is a problem. When I press the metal stick back in, it feels very very tight.

Have you had any problems with your bearings yet Ohlin?
I will try this solution. Easier to maintain.. The silicon cage or whatever it is is, as said, very hard not to destroy when inserting the metal stick back in..

Ohlins 20-09-13 08:34

I've had no problems to date...and I can't see how I would at this time.There's no room for movement and I'd rather see grease in there than not.

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Eddiw 20-09-13 16:14

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Originally Posted by Ohlins (Post 192208)
I've had no problems to date...and I can't see how I would at this time.There's no room for movement and I'd rather see grease in there than not.

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Good to hear. Then I will do the same :)
As said, if you grease without removing the silicon cage all grease will be pushed out again by the metal stick.. When I still had the silicon cage in the bearing the metal stick was completely clean after I pulled it through the bearing..
So, grease or silicon cage... I choose grease..

I will remove the silicon cage in all my bearings, they will be quite destroyed when removing/inserting the metal stick anyway..

Pleiades 20-09-13 18:18

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Originally Posted by Eddiw (Post 192217)
So, grease or silicon cage... I choose grease..

I removed the MPL from my swingarm bearings the first time I serviced them (2 years ago) by accident. Cleaned them out with petrol without really thinking about it and the MPL dissolved and the needles fell out! I had intended just to smear the existing bearings with grease and re-assemble everything as it was. After wondering what to do I stumbled across this (which is pretty much the same as Ohlins' walk-through)...

http://www.thumperfaq.com/swingarm.htm

I am due a swingarm strip again soon and will see how things have held up, but there is no play and there are no squeaks - it's just precautionary maintenance. As I mentioned before, I also used waterproof marine grease when I assembled everything last time.

Eddiw 22-09-13 12:01

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Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 192220)
I removed the MPL from my swingarm bearings the first time I serviced them (2 years ago) by accident. Cleaned them out with petrol without really thinking about it and the MPL dissolved and the needles fell out! I had intended just to smear the existing bearings with grease and re-assemble everything as it was. After wondering what to do I stumbled across this (which is pretty much the same as Ohlins' walk-through)...

http://www.thumperfaq.com/swingarm.htm

I am due a swingarm strip again soon and will see how things have held up, but there is no play and there are no squeaks - it's just precautionary maintenance. As I mentioned before, I also used waterproof marine grease when I assembled everything last time.

Thank you Pleiades for your reply! Then I have no worries :)

Ohlins 22-09-13 13:37

Yip..thanks f0r your update and I wouldn't worry too much about it...

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aliwakeskate 22-09-13 22:20

Just about to do this myself using this thread as a guide (cheers Ohlins - I'll buy you a :beer[1]: next month) and was wondering what the issue might be with removing that silicon cage but after reading that thumpertalk article I can see more benefit to removing it than leaving it. Nice one Pleiades :icon_thumleft:


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