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coxwain 23-01-13 19:52

Sump guards
 
Hi i am looking to up grade my sump guard and been looking at the touratech one , also crash bars , has anybody got the large touratech guard fitted with crash bars I've been looking at s w motech ones , would be good to find out before i spend the cash , cheers

PhilinFrance 23-01-13 20:19

I've gone for this
http://www.adventure-spec.com/media/...-it-cb0023.jpg

all in one and from what folks say "it's the ******"

Phil

phil ten 24-01-13 09:46

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Originally Posted by PhilinFrance (Post 183407)
I've gone for this
http://www.adventure-spec.com/media/...-it-cb0023.jpg

all in one and from what folks say "it's the ******"

Phil


yeah, go for that one....best one on the market.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 24-01-13 11:29

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Originally Posted by phil ten (Post 183422)
yeah, go for that one....best one on the market.

a brave thing to say...... opinions vary...:icon_wink:

phil ten 24-01-13 13:51

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Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 183429)
a brave thing to say

yep...and i stand by it :)

there are others that offer the same level of protection....but man alive there ugly :sneeze: (another brave statement :) )

Pleiades 24-01-13 18:22

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Originally Posted by phil ten (Post 183422)
best one on the market.

I did consider an AS bash plate, but I had some reservations about how much it would restrict access to parts of the engine I need to get to for servicing. The crash bar part obscures the oil filter housing, the water pump (obviously) and the access cover for the crank nut. That in its self isn't such a problem (it is after all designed to protect them), but it just doesn't look that easy to drop the bash plate down to get at those things if you need to? It fixes at the lower front engine mounts, which aren't the simplest thing to get at in a hurry and you really need to torque them down accurately when replacing them to avoid vibration; having to carrying a torque wrench in your tool kit isn't ideal. The Tenere is already a bit over complicated when it comes to getting at things with its myriad of plastics bits and bobs.

I don't doubt the strength, durability and looks of the AS product, but accessibility is what put me off. The large TT bash plate, for example, is a piece of piss to drop down; two easy access bolts (with captive nuts) to undo at the front and hinged at the back - takes 2 minutes tops.

redbikejohn 26-01-13 00:39

You can still do the oil filter with the AS guard but the crank nut is covered. But then again its so far apart to to be an issue.

Bartosz 27-01-13 18:04

And You can do oil / filter change with AS bash plate / bars without any problems. No need to take bash plate off.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 27-01-13 18:12

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Originally Posted by Bartosz (Post 183548)
And You can do oil / filter change with AS bash plate / bars without any problems. No need to take bash plate off.

How?

The oil from the sump would run all over the bash plate... if you could even get the dump plug out....

DickyC 27-01-13 20:59

For what its worth, I still reckon the OE Yamaha belly pan is good. Mines had quite a hammering and never let go. I was lucky enough to get a set ot OE engine bars a while back as well and they have proven themselves to be tough. I know that there were issues with both these products but I still think that Yamaha should have just worked them out and continued to make the engine bars like they did the belly pan. They suit the bike, they fit well and afford the protection that we are all looking for without being huge, ugly and overpriced.

Mind you if there was only ever one workable option for add-ons we would all get bored and look the same!

Of course, should an adventure bike have to have such add-ons at all? Should they not be standard?

Good luck in choosing the setup that suits you, your riding and your buget.

Bartosz 27-01-13 21:22

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Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 183549)
How?

The oil from the sump would run all over the bash plate... if you could even get the dump plug out....

Socket with extension to undo the dump plug, then bike on side stand with canister under... didn't even spill a drop. In fact there was a little spill from frame dump plug on to plate, but as it has some clearance i was able to wipe this off. I even lean the bike both sides to make sure all oil from the sump was off and that didn't make a mess.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 28-01-13 09:10

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Originally Posted by DickyC (Post 183558)
For what its worth, I still reckon the OE Yamaha belly pan is good.

And you are right.

Tried to destroy mine with a sledge hammer, jumping on it, driving a 2 1/2 ton 4x4 over it... Shows no sign of damage!

planxty 28-01-13 23:11

Yamaha belly pan and crash bars are good, unobtrusive and more than enough protection.

coxwain 29-01-13 06:26

Because the wife loves me ive gone for the large touratech one with the tool box

PhilinFrance 29-01-13 08:49

IT'LL COST YA IN THE LONG RUN :smile[2]:

I haven't toll our lass about the

Sump guard
Brake ext
Gear shift
Light guard
Shorty levers
Kev mod
Big pegs
:newspaper:

phil ten 29-01-13 10:03

i have the Yamaha one (the one that looks very simliar to the Aventure Spec one).

i do think the Aventure Spec one though is slightly better.

i know a few people who have the Yam one that has either broke or cracked near the rear mounting.

Also the adventure spec one covers more of the water pump. The sump guard curls round all the way and meets the bar...where as the yam one doesnt.

But....i still think the Yam one is good and has served me well.

DickyC 29-01-13 21:02

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Originally Posted by phil ten (Post 183603)
i know a few people who have the Yam one that has either broke or cracked near the rear mounting.

That was the 'mark I'. The new ones have been manufactured in a different and stronger manner. I just wish they had done that with the engine bars.

Pleiades 29-01-13 21:28

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Originally Posted by coxwain (Post 183595)
Because the wife loves me ive gone for the large touratech one with the tool box

Worth noting that the toolbox lid hits the LH header pipe and only opens about half way (design fault as it was originally intended for 990ADV) making it a bu99er to get anything in through the narrow opening - you'll see what I mean when you fit it! Might be worth thinking about my simple mod which makes the lid quick release enabling full access...

http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=16130

The sump guard is great and the toolbox handy; keeps the extra weight low and toward the front of the bike. Not watertight mind, so give your tools a rub down with an oily rag.

(Here is MkI version... http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=15985)

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 29-01-13 21:39

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Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 183634)
give your tools a rub down with an oily rag.


I had to read that three times... I'm such a child... <snigger>

Pleiades 29-01-13 21:56

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Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 183635)
I had to read that three times... I'm such a child... <snigger>

:toot: You do have a canny ability to sniff out the double entendre! ;)

coxwain 30-01-13 09:18

Lol yah mad you lot

phil ten 30-01-13 10:34

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Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 183634)
Worth noting that the toolbox lid hits the LH header pipe and only opens about half way (design fault as it was originally intended for 990ADV) making it a bu99er to get anything in through the narrow opening - you'll see what I mean when you fit it! Might be worth thinking about my simple mod which makes the lid quick release enabling full access...

http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=16130

The sump guard is great and the toolbox handy; keeps the extra weight low and toward the front of the bike. Not watertight mind, so give your tools a rub down with an oily rag.

(Here is MkI version... http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=15985)

Dont suppose you have a photo of your Ten with this sump/tool box thing? i mean not a close up....a pic that shows what the whole bike looks like with one fitted?

I had a dream last night that i zip tied tyre levers to the front of my Yam sump/engine bars combo. maybe it was a sign?? :)

Do you have to buy the sump guard...and also the tool box?

Pleiades 30-01-13 11:57

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Originally Posted by phil ten (Post 183652)
Dont suppose you have a photo of your Ten with this sump/tool box thing? i mean not a close up....a pic that shows what the whole bike looks like with one fitted?

There's some pics in this thread that will give you an idea...

http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?t=19894

Quote:

Originally Posted by phil ten (Post 183652)
Do you have to buy the sump guard...and also the tool box?

Yes you do - and it ain't cheap either!!!

tripletom 30-01-13 22:21

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Originally Posted by phil ten (Post 183652)
I had a dream last night that i zip tied tyre levers to the front of my Yam sump/engine bars combo. maybe it was a sign?? :)

Or you can just fit them under the seat alongside the snorkle...

PhilinFrance 01-02-13 19:01

Well i hope this AS sump guard lives up to it's name !!!!!! What a TWOT to fit, defo needs a 3rd hand
Pics to follow .................need Red Wine now

Phil

coxwain 07-02-13 19:06

well thats fooked it,, all the bits turn up and i set about fitting them ,,and no they wont go together , the main bracket clash big time , great

coxwain 07-02-13 20:14

Well after having a bit of a look if i cut abit from both brackets they should slot together , well the grinders coming out to play by the looks of it

Pleiades 07-02-13 21:25

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Originally Posted by coxwain (Post 184030)
and no they wont go together , the main bracket clash big time

Not sure I follow which bit of the bracket clashes with what? Are you sure you've got the right mounting parts? Oddly, my bash plate fitted straight on and everything lined up without a hitch (apart from the fact that in 2008 the instructions were only in German!)

Got a photo of the offending part(s)?

The one good thing I've always found with TT parts is they're designed, made, machined and drilled to a high degree of accuracy and fit without modification (which is more than I can say for a lot of aftermarket parts out there!)

coxwain 07-02-13 21:30

touratech bracket clashes with sw motech brackets where it mounts at the front of the bike

Pleiades 07-02-13 21:35

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Originally Posted by coxwain (Post 184036)
touratech bracket clashes with sw motech brackets

Ah, I see! Thought you meant there was a problem with the TT guard itself - best you fire up the grinder and get modding! ;)

coxwain 09-02-13 15:08

Well after a good bit of umin and harrin it wont fit so ive fitted the sump guard and tool box and chucked the crash bars in the corner of the garage for the time being


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