Metzler Tourance Scary Moments..
 

Is it just me or does anyone else find the Tourances dont like the White lines in the road?

I am running 26/28psi front/rear and when ever I do a bit of lane splitting the bike wants to go all over the place when it hits the white lines...:angry5:

Scary stuff.

Marc

Never just lane changeing... wet or dry...
But I have had slicks go out from under me on white lines...
steel man hole covers are the worst....

If yer run that style of tire... Have a look at the Shenko 705 or the Fullbore M41 copy/rebrand...

I also found the OE Tourances at OE pressures awful on raised white lines and manhole covers (wet or dry), that has played a big part in me vowing never to use them again!

Yes, me too. I have tried tourances on my Transalp and XTR and always the same from about 50% worn. They ok up to then though.

On the Transalp I have been running Conti Escapes for about 35,000 miles now. Best tyre I have fitted to the bike so far. I think I will be giving them a go on the XTR when the time comes.


Sent from my iPhone with a smile :)

Is it just me or are those tyre pressures not very low??:smilies0943:

I use to run the XTR tyres at both 36 back and front and didnt have that much issues with white lining, only if it was wet but then never found a tyre for the XTR that didnt mind white lining in the wet.

I also found the Tourance dodgy on my R. Not only on white lines, manhole covers but also in the cold on a damp or wet road. All the punctures i ever had were on the Tourance coming to think of it.
Never again.

rob

No, it's not just you, 26/28 is a bit low!

Tyre Pressure
 

Let me just clarify... I probably run it at 28/30 Front/Rear.

Any higher and the tyres are even more slippery

I am just biding my time a bit before I decide what tyres to get - right now the Tourances are still 90% new so its kinda hard to justify..

Actually the dont handle too badly on dry bitumen. They corner pretty well just suck on any thing slightly bigger then a raised white line.

Marc

Scareances...
 

I have had some similar scary moments on the Tourances.

I find them especially bad on any damp surface.

Just with the bl**dy things would hurry up & wear out so I can justify replacing them!

Which brings me to my next question.....

I have a second set of rims with D606s on for dirt & offroad work, so what would be a decent DS/Adventure tyre for mainly commuting to work, the odd road fang & occasional gravel road trip? Everyone has their own theory on it, from Pirelli to Conti Escape to Heidenhau.

What do you guys reckon? Cheers, Boneman

I think its tyre pressure retailed.:icon_monkey:

Boneman give me your bike for a week and I'll wear those tyres out for you hehe.

Mine only lasted 8000km and both front and rear were totaly stuffed.

They are not a real good wet weather tyre but are ok in the dry.

Sorry, but I disagree. Running 33/37 on sealed roads and 22/25 on dirt, I find the Tourances to be just fine on everything except clay/mud/any greasy off-road surface. Mine are almost worn out but still feel ok.

Compared with Metzeler Karoos, Dunlop D606 and various other tyres on various other bikes, for everyday use the Tourances haven't bothered me much (except in the abovementioned greasy stuff, where they are scary imo. No surprises there... Well, lots really!!). No doubt they'd be pretty bad in snow etc, but that isn't an issue for me.

Easily punctured might be true. I had a rock fracture the tread carcase on a new tubeless Tourance I used for about 1700km before re-fitting the original. Unsure whether any other tyre would have survived. Possibly not.

Yes, it's probably made worse by lower pressure, but they definitely perform badly on road irregularities in my experience. The Tourance I tried on my old GS behaved exactly the same way. I agree with ThunderDownUnder that you can't knock their basic performance on flat dry tarmac at reasonable temperatures (or even dry forest tracks). I found that they were worse as ambient temperatures fell, particularly if wet as well.

Pressure
 

Ok so what is the recommended pressure for a standard XTR with no luggage and a 80kg rider?
The user hand book suggests 29 psi front and rear for an 80 kg rider (cold)

Thanks

Marc

Shenko 705 or the Fullbore M41 rebrand ....
All I use on my XTR now..
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By petenz at 2012-07-24

Not sure on the recommended pressure only used them as a guide and always went above them by a good 2-3 psi.

How long have you had the R? and miles youve done?

In the dry the R is grand, i would commonly drag the pegs and my toes to the extent i had no toe sliders after a good summer!!!! It just what way you ride the bike, it take well to you grabbing it by the neck and throwing it on its ear in a corner with high mid corner speed.

I did put a set of Diztanias thingys on the R and they were probably the same in the wet and dry to the tourances and thats really the only road tyres i used part from the tourances.

Put Tourances on mine and they have been great alot more grip than the standard ones and give me cornering confidence.

Saturday on the way home from Malham just out of Arncliffe my new MAGNETIC Tourance found a nail - FLAT.

Recovery home, wheel out yesterday and my mate is coming by today to pick it up and repair/replace the tybe has I have no tyre levers.

Same.

I had tourences on my R and never found I had any problems. My pressures were not as low as that from what I remember.

I actually prefere them to the Avons that are currently on my Z.

:angel3:

Yes, on the road, lower-than-recommended pressures do make Tourances feel a bit weird imo.

Mine started to tram-track noticeably, so I pumped them up to 33/37 again. Even though nearly worn out, the tyres feel pretty good again.

I have a nearly-new front one from my TTR's brief on-road experience, and will order another rear to suit. I like them well enough for general use, but that certainly doen't mean anyone has to agree with me. Different perceptions and riding styles demand a different feel.

Nothing like a different feel, I always say.

Metzler Tourance
 

Took my tourance tyres off after two weeks of owning the bike. Now running Metzler Karoo, great tyre but wear quick.

no prbs qth mine , though..
 

I have locked the wheels a couple of times under hard breaking in the dry. But let's be honest you should expect this from any skinny tire.
I have ridden XTR + metzelers in the rain and also snow, slushy snow in hilly Wilshire without scary moment.
Metal potholes at T junctions do set them off if you r not sensitive with the throttle