i get what your saying, but ive never been interested in them before because oiling by hand takes about 3 mins, and lets you inspect the rear end of your bike while doing it. i just dont find it hassle.

You say "no fusss no mess" but i know quite a few people with them who have had mess and major fuss, due to them not working right. a guy i know had one and it stopped working.....but he didnt notice....for quite a long time, then in an atempt to get it working it started pumping oil out and a stupid rate. (he took it off in the end)

but.....off roading is a different kettle of fish so i think i may give one a go? :105:

Really ?

I spent �70 on a scottoiler, just the basic system. Plus maybe �40 on oil over 30,000 miles. A new C&S cost ~�100 give or take depending on which you fit, and Uberthumper has fitted 2.5 C&S sets to my 1, with no oiler.

Notwithstanding the cost of spray oil, the scottoiler has saved me in the region of 1.5 C&S sets, so ~�150, against �70. Okay not massive, but I'll guess the spray oil costs add another �100 over the same mileage.

if the scotoiler is too expensive for you have a look at the TUTORO or the Loobman. Both simple systems that are cheap and easy to use. I fill them with Stihl chainsaw oil because I found it to have the ideal thickness.

The basic Scottoiler I can see could save some cash, but if I go for it I would like the eSystem that only lubes while you're moving and can be adjusted easily... which will cost me around 300�

The trick with the basic system is attention to detail - Read the instructions and set it up correctly, spend some time and it works perfectly.

Just what i was going to say.

Had an XTR for around 40k miles and had a scottoiler on it from the off. Now im quiet hard on chains and sprockets as i was doing alot of town milage with slipping clutchs etc but i still managed to average 15k miles on a chain and sprockets (front sprocket and chain ready to change, rear maybe 40% left but changed it for safety reason as ive had chains slip and come off before and the out comes can be nasty) Any who if you spend a bit of time at the start and set it up correctly to the way you ride and roads/average speed you should just be able to leave it and ride with the odd check of the chain in between.

Ive not sold the XTR and have it on my Triumph Tiger so its about 4-5 years old and no bother.

Take some time to think about it before you go for the eSystem. Is the system really worth spending that much extra for over the vSystem? For instance how often and for how long do you spend with the bike stopped with the engine running? If the dosing rate is set up correctly on the vSystem stopping at lights, at junctions etc isn't an issue at all.
What ever system you go for - if you do that is - will be a step in the right direction I'm sure.:038::D

theres a few different opinions on lubing a chain off road ..some guys say dont do it at all as it collects grit ..
im not keen on spray stuff ecpeccially waxy stuff
scottoilers do it for me the oil flings and takes the dust with it
the feckin about everyday would be a step backwards on a longer trip
iguess i would use the lightest stuff possible
check out worths dry chain lube i guess it may be worth a try on a dirt bike ??

i had a touring one on when i bought it ..a added a simple alloy mud cover .....

it feeds through a ktm chain block that stoic bloke invented bang in the middle so no need for a split feeder
... ...pretty dam clean chain and nothing to do for 5000 miles is a bonus too ..ive no problems with scotts stuff the one on me wee strom is ten years old ..
and been on three other bikes ,,its on its third chain in 78000 miles

if your ten has a regina chain on it get rid of it before any big trips they are poor and deteriate mega quick at the end of their life around 7/8k miles ..the heavy duty did has not been adjusted since last year when i put the 644s on http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/c...d/IMG_2704.jpg
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Riding in sandy conditions is a problem, I carry a spray can of chain cleaner and an old toothbrush to get the grit off. As light oil as possible if back in the sand the next day, otherwise spray can of chain lube.

I've not had good experiences with Scottoiler, the smaller systems need to be refilled several times during a long trip. I would rather deal with the chain manually once each day which gives me a chance to look at it and pick up problems--like a missing chain link on one occasion!

thats my point. ive done a few biggish trips and i found popping abit of oil on the chain wasnt a problem...apart from when its pissing it down! :(

this is all on road though, just wandered if there was different techniques for off road chain care.

I would like to up rate the C&S when money promits, go slightly thicker.

cheers guys