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throw overs
hi everyone, just brought a tenere was thinking of a set of throw overs is there any problems with the exhaust like do you need a supporting bracket.
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I don't think throw-over panniers are a problem on the Tenere as the exhaust is covered and not too hot to touch (I asume that you have the standard exhaust). However before you take my word for it, try getting your bike up to full temp and see how hot the exhaust is.
I'm looking at getting some Cameron Barker waterproof panniers very soon. I'm not sure if you'd need any pannier supports for them, I'm hoping that they'll be ok without. |
ok cheers suds, got a panic on now pick my bike up next sat and 10 after that heading for spain
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If it's standard pipes then you'll be fine mate. Happy travels.
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yes standard pipes, so will any throw overs fit?
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had a look at the cameron barker one,s the do look good
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I've just ordered a set of the Oxford RT30 panniers, they should be here any time in the next day or so..... Might be total rubbish, who knows, or they might be a good option over Kriega (I doubt it though).
I'll let you know. http://www.oxprod.com/index.php?pg=3...184&pid=587&p= |
well they look nice what sort of money are they
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Have a look at Wolfman soft luggage.
http://www.windingroads.co.uk/shop/s...cle_luggage_uk I'm really impressed with mine, top quality, hand made in the USA (not China like almost everything else), loads of fitting options and flexibility. Check out their panniers and saddle bags, particularly the expedition range and also Rolie bag system, an excellent, cheaper alternative to Kriega. |
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I must add, I've got these to fit to my TT racks, sometimes I don't want hard boxes. The Zega's are good, but I fall into the school of thought that neither hard or soft is best, there is best for the job in hand, might be hard or soft.... I'm also in the process of making a solid in-fill for the TT racks to carry soft luggage - best of both worlds. |
do you need any rails with the wolfman for the tenere
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I found the Cameron Barker panniers on a French site called motoblouz.com for 47 euros + p&p. I'd order them myself but I don't speak a word of French! Also I don't know how much the postage would cost or even they would send them to the UK. If someone is able to find out the above, please let me know! :signthankspin: Maybe we can do a group order if enough people are interested.
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The black exhaust bits you can see are a protective shell over the hot bits. Throwovers work fine, but you'll find that you will probably damage the finish of the black bits. I took mine off and repainted them the last time I did some remedial work.
You could probably made a simple metal frame to hold the throwovers off the paintwork. |
ok cheers tim, i think i have narrowed it down to the oxford or the wolfman set. so many choices my head hurts
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I've no idea of the oxford kit there was a review on the hubb a while ago
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/hub...age-rt30-58864
the wolfman gear I have seen in action, extremely robust, well designed/ made, fits really well, I'm really considering a set as i managed to wear out a pair of hg rollbags I was using as panniers. also i am considering the giantloop gear as I'm going to start using the exc for the more extreme camping trips |
Have a look at the Newly designed and marketed by Adventure-spec soft panniers!
They have some excellent features and the design is superb.....and yes I've seen them in the flesh! They are on my shopping list! Steve |
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Good find Steve - Having a read down the write up, if they meet everything that is said then they are going to be a big winner. Do they have enough strapping to fit over the seat AND sit down onto pannier racks ? The Ten is a narrow bike at the back and Walter usually rides a BMW, so I would imaging they do. At �350 they are priced well, under the Kriega stuff by �140 ish. |
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They are pricey, but in my book they are a next generation improved Andy Strapz/Steel Pony. You do need a rack for them, otherwise they'll end up in the rear wheel. @GULGO: the overseat straps are fully adjustable and considering the width of Walter's own modified X with the custom rack and additional rear tank they should be plenty long enough for the Ten. |
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I have had quite a lot of gear from Adventure-spec and must add that I do not have any affiliation with the guys there other than I always get a warm welcome and good advice (as they take my payment from me!) I have also been following Walters' development of soft luggage and have read a lot of arguments for and against soft / hard. I saw some of these panniers a while back and was going to buy them but Dave at Adventure-spec said that they were still in development and some new features are to be added, he suggested that I wait. I would presume that the new design is now out and I would certainly recommend that you consider these products if you wish to go the soft route preference. For any of you that do not know of Walter Colbach I suggest you search him out on ADV Rider and Horizons Unlimited sites. I have not met him but have read some of the writeups of his journeys and believe me if anyone knows what design features are required for soft luggage then he has some really valid design ideas. Like I have mentioned earlier on I have a set on my next shopping list. Why? I could easily lift the pair with one hand. I am fed up with carrying so much weight around with me, my Metal Mule panniers weigh a ton empty! The only sacrifice is that I always use a pannier for a seat but even to carry a seat will be much much lighter that the panners. This is purely my opinion. Hope this info helps. |
I just last week fitted a set of Aluminium rigid GIVI cases to my XT660X and then set off for a 1000km tour of Sardinia, what a beautiful island. Anyway apart from a small accident hitting another bike as the bike becomes REALLY wide, I found these rigid cases truly excellent and practical. Sure they are expensive but they should last.
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ive used these ortileb now for two years and they have been really good
the tool tubes on the tenere have made a good platform for them and the bottom strap secures them to the tubes but anyway they have proved tough enough to take some laydowns and are 1000 percent waterproof ..i know they arnt going to be the most fancy things but if its any good to anyone they have been very good bags ..they work well with the side rails on the klr as well but in all honesty ive never needed to bother with rails on the tenere ....the twin tool tube set up has made them very secure ..if the tubes are not your thing ...bag supports can be slung using the exhaust bolts in the same way just making a rail between the brackets to rest the bag on instead of the tubes if you see what i mean one other advantage of this is the bags do not make the bike as wide as the exon valdize at the back ... and the weigh pretty much nothing a few pounds http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/8683/img14620.jpg By minkyhead at 2010-12-06 http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/8849/pandue.jpg By minkyhead at 2011-05-13 http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/8416/photo0070q.jpg By minkyhead at 2011-03-25 http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/2475/photo0069x.jpg By minkyhead at 2011-03-25 http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/c...yhead/side.jpg |
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Throw-overs...
I use both MetalMule boxes and throw-overs too, but not at the same time :eusa_shifty:
I have a set of Hein Gericke "Pro Sports" and CARGO "Endurance" throw-over cases and they fit very well over the back-seat and down the sides, albeit, resting and connected to the pannier-boxes frame. Be careful using a bungee-cord under the seat from one bag to another as mine have been " cut in two" by the rear-wheel whilst in motion! :sign12: The throw-overs save weight and don't look too bad either and using a few bungee-cords to strap them down you'll be okay too :glasses11: |
just to thank everybody for the replys i went for the orthlieb throw over same as the one,s minkyhead had on.they were very good totaly waterproof even in a big thunder storm heading home at le mans.
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