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spookyad 27-03-12 22:35

Money Pit
 
Im picking my 09 xt660z up on Thursday with 3700m on the clock, but after reading through this great site, I'm a bit worried about the reliability of the bike and all it's issues. Can someone cheer me up with any good news of this bike ie loads of miles and no issues.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 27-03-12 22:38

My Z has 30K on the clock... it has let me down once, at home where the loom was over tightened with cable ties.



What you have seen is the worst, of a small selection of bikes. Many others have had faultless lives.


Don't panic, you could have bought a BMW, and be calling the RAC even before it's arrived !

Be aware though, reliability is a subjective issue, some people see rusty spokes as an issue, others look at the 'has the bike left me stranded' issue, others have a more pragmatic view, and look at the whole ownership, for me, this bike has been the longest I have owned a main bike (I have a TTR too), I get bored of sick of faults usually after about 2 years, this bike is coming up on it's 4th birthday. I've found that it is by far the best bike to get along with by far. It's comfy, it's got a huge range, it's cheap to run, and like a trusty Landrover, you might not get there first, but you'l deffo get there, and nature never holds you back.

tripletom 27-03-12 22:45

26,000 miles and the worst I've had has been flat tyres from punctures.
She's a good old donk.

spookyad 27-03-12 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 170288)
My Z has 30K on the clock... it has let me down once, at home where the loom was over tightened with cable ties.



What you have seen is the worst, of a small selection of bikes. Many others have had faultless lives.


Don't panic, you could have bought a BMW, and be calling the RAC even before it's arrived !

Had a GSA and the clutch went so I sold it I'm putting in my KTM 990 Adventure for this xt660z with cash back, hope it works out as I like the bike when I took it for a 70min test ride.

Pleiades 27-03-12 23:43

2008 XTZ, 21K miles, no problems at all, never let me down once. Never been to dealer since 600 miles service. Still original loom and rectifier, still got the old style breather (never bothered me), original chain and sprockets, even the original Yamaha pannier locks still work. It seems unsinkable... :smilies0330:

SingleMinded 28-03-12 11:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by spookyad (Post 170287)
Im picking my 09 xt660z up on Thursday with 3700m on the clock, but after reading through this great site, I'm a bit worried about the reliability of the bike and all it's issues. Can someone cheer me up with any good news of this bike ie loads of miles and no issues.

shouldn't have done that...

What I mean is that you'll find issues on any forum on any bike/car/boat/plane/camera/hifi/computer/etc...

... that's why forums exist.

But in my experience it's just as reliable as the BMW's i've had ... oww... no no no no! Euhmmm... just as reliable as ... euhm... oooh.. .well.. just as reliable as an Japanese engineered bike built in Italy can be ;)

... I'd say quite good indeed!

JMo 28-03-12 12:02

23,000 miles in six months around the USA... no problems.

Then 5000 miles [racing] from Paris to Dakar... no problems.

They are a sound bike.

The only issues people ever seem to have had are a badly fitted connector on the reg/reg (an easy check and fix) on certain model years... plus the cush drive rubbers wearing 'prematurely' - although since Yamaha have never said how long the cush rubbers are expected to last, it's just something that wears out, like tyres and brakes pads... again, if you want to prolong their life, there is a quick and easy fix on the forum here...

Enjoy the bike, it really is an excellent all-rounder...

Jx

uberthumper 29-03-12 10:52

Mine will go through 31,000 miles on Sunday, in the middle of a rally.


It's come home on a trailer once in my ownership - when I rode it into three feet of water on Salisbury Plain. I can hardly blame the bike for that.

It also had the reg/rec plug issue before I bought it. That can be prevented, and if your bike is a genuine '09 model (mine is an '09 reg '08 bike) then it's a non-issue anyway.


A few things have worn out quicker than I'd like, but nothing that isn't easily replaced, and my bike has probably lived a slightly harder than average life, and received a slightly lower than average amount of TLC :D.

In other words, don't worry.

Edit to add: Mine is a money pit, but that's because I like shiny things, not because of unreliability ;)

Chris1811 29-03-12 12:15

Not as many miles as everyone else but got 08 plate, 17000 Miles standard engine etc and never had any issues!

spookyad 29-03-12 16:11

Just picked the bike up went straight home to check the reg/rec and all looks good and clean. But I noticed that the connector will only go down one click, my fingers are sore pushing down hard to hear a second click but it will only go down the one, is it that hard to push or what, any advice on this please.
Cheers SPOOKYAD.

Pleiades 29-03-12 16:22

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Originally Posted by spookyad (Post 170383)
But I noticed that the connector will only go down one click, my fingers are sore pushing down hard to hear a second click but it will only go down the one, is it that hard to push or what, any advice on this please.

Mine only goes in with one firm click too, and it's been fine.

spookyad 29-03-12 16:33

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Originally Posted by Pleiades (Post 170384)
Mine only goes in with one firm click too, and it's been fine.

I hope it's just the one then,might be the case from 09 on,I hope anyway. Thanks for the fast reply.

chili 30-03-12 17:52

I left my Tenere in the shop today for a new loom and rectifier, my bike was the only Yamaha they have for repair, but there was four BMW GS waiting for repair (and they where put aside to make place for my Tenere :-)...)

What i've been reading the rectifier/connector issue is a Tenere problem other issues could happen on any bike....

And of course in a forum you see threads from the guys that have a problem, look at any Corvette, Harley, Porsche forum etc they all have problems that they ask and write about....

Don't hesitate, it's pretty good quality on this bike (just check that the connectors is ok

stuxtttr 30-03-12 21:39

my reg/rec went it was in warranty and it got fixed.

thanks to the great folk on here i was able to get a quick diagnosis and get the problem fixed.

every time i think about changing the bike i just go for a spin and get a huge grin.

get a single can, saves weight sounds ace, plus kev mod and a filter.

worst mpg is about 44 mpg but that was thrashing the pants off her !

best is 65 +

you have a great bike enjoy it.

as soon as i saw the ten I wanted it, if i had waited i could have saved myself

about 1500 quid but hey ho i have had that in laughs then again i only piad 1300 quid for my ttr and that bike is flippin brill.

i think you will notice a drop in power compared to the 990 mind, the old girl could do with a few extra bhp for when the going gets fast:Driving_6XFY3G:

spookyad 30-03-12 23:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuxtttr (Post 170481)
my reg/rec went it was in warranty and it got fixed.

thanks to the great folk on here i was able to get a quick diagnosis and get the problem fixed.

every time i think about changing the bike i just go for a spin and get a huge grin.

get a single can, saves weight sounds ace, plus kev mod and a filter.

worst mpg is about 44 mpg but that was thrashing the pants off her !

best is 65 +

you have a great bike enjoy it.

as soon as i saw the ten I wanted it, if i had waited i could have saved myself

about 1500 quid but hey ho i have had that in laughs then again i only piad 1300 quid for my ttr and that bike is flippin brill.

i think you will notice a drop in power compared to the 990 mind, the old girl could do with a few extra bhp for when the going gets fast:Driving_6XFY3G:

Yes it's a big drop in power, but I new that and overall I'm very happy with the bike as it was half the price that I payed for the 990. Still waiting for someone regarding the one click on the reg/rec to ease my mind lol.

rtwpaul 31-03-12 00:38

i have a 2009 XT660Z - 50,000 miles on mine - 38,000 miles in 5 months...i'd call it reliable YES!!!

steveD 31-03-12 10:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by spookyad (Post 170500)
Yes it's a big drop in power, but I new that and overall I'm very happy with the bike as it was half the price that I payed for the 990. Still waiting for someone regarding the one click on the reg/rec to ease my mind lol.

Spooky, the only reason we are emphasizing get the 'click' is to ensure that the two parts are fastened together. My advice would be to take apart and clean off everything, inside and out. The fit together when not on the bike, yes take the reg/ rectifier off. The you can see how the two parts are supposed to fit together. Then on assembly ensure that there is some form of grease, vaseline or better still dialectric grease filling the cavity with the pins. This will ensure that no water can get in. Then when you reassemble you need to ensure that the connectors inside the connection are good because the problem with all of thesebreakdowns is that the EARTH terminal heats up, starts to melt the connector which distorts, allows moisture in and the problem escalates. We just need to ensure that the terminals are connected well and you will have no problems.:icon_lol:

Hope this explains a few things and helps.

............and Yes my first Ten was the first to have this problem that we know of at the first Lakes DOOOOOO:sad2:

tacomodo 31-03-12 12:53

Just adding my +1 here

I've had the bike for 1 year now and haven't had any issues so far. Runs great :)

spookyad 01-04-12 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by steveD (Post 170520)
Spooky, the only reason we are emphasizing get the 'click' is to ensure that the two parts are fastened together. My advice would be to take apart and clean off everything, inside and out. The fit together when not on the bike, yes take the reg/ rectifier off. The you can see how the two parts are supposed to fit together. Then on assembly ensure that there is some form of grease, vaseline or better still dialectric grease filling the cavity with the pins. This will ensure that no water can get in. Then when you reassemble you need to ensure that the connectors inside the connection are good because the problem with all of thesebreakdowns is that the EARTH terminal heats up, starts to melt the connector which distorts, allows moisture in and the problem escalates. We just need to ensure that the terminals are connected well and you will have no problems.:icon_lol:

Hope this explains a few things and helps.

............and Yes my first Ten was the first to have this problem that we know of at the first Lakes DOOOOOO:sad2:

Ok thanks Steve I did take it off the bike and all looks very clean and tidy, sprayed it all with WD40 and put it back together but didn't fill with grease so I will do what you said and fill it up. Thanks again.


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