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stoic bloke

03-02-12 20:46

another thing to ponder

i would like to see a change to the road system, when at the lights are red, before going to green the amber comes on, unfortunately too many car drivers see this as launch NOW!. perhaps it's something that only happens here? i dont enjoy the experience of filtering, waiting for green only to have the left and right of me barge on as i somewhat pedantically wait for green. happens quite often in newry my local town/city.

across the border from me [100mtrs]in southern ireland they have the european system, red then green for go. the amber is only on the 'stopping' phase,imho much more civilised

what do you's recon? if the change was on the cards would it be an improvement?

uberthumper

03-02-12 22:13

I agree. No reason for the Red+Amber phase.

Besides, the traffic light GP is much more realistic when the green light is a surprise :D

Woottonboy

04-02-12 02:24

Ozzie rules

Actually according to the road rule book in NSW amber means "STOP unless unsafe to do so". 6 seconds of amber just means more people go through on amber knowing that the light is only about to turn red.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go

04-02-12 09:58

I kinda agree.

But a green light doesn't mean 'go', it means 'go if it safe to do so', Re light means stop, so technically, crossing the solid line with a red light is an offence anyway, either side of the cycle (or the motorcycle in Stoic case - Yes the pun was intended!)

Red -> Green would clear things up for sure.

Another thing, and they use this system in the US and Canada, when turning left (or right for those who choose the other side of the road) at a red light, you treat it as a 'give way', works over there, not sure it would here. But it's a great way to get traffic moving.

stumpydave

04-02-12 11:39

On the subject of traffic lights, can we turn them all to a flashing amber as they do in some other countries between say 10 at night and 7 in a morning? I often start work in the early hours of a morning and find it ridiculous to spend so much time sat at red lights when theres only me and the milkman on the road.
I'm sure this would save the councils money too in electricity savings particularly if they were turned of all together?

Grim Reaper

04-02-12 12:20

I work shifts too and at silly o'clock in the morning when the roads are empty, there's nothing more annoying than sitting at a junction when there's no traffic.

I think you're right about turning left on a red light, it works in the USA except they turn right.

One thing I would change about junctions here is stick in roundabouts at major cross roads where possible. As said previously, there is too much time spent sitting at lights when the road is clear. And traffic lights could be in operation for peak times/rush hour.

They use this system at some roundabouts so why not use it more often.

stumpydave

04-02-12 12:26

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 167815)

I work shifts too and at silly o'clock in the morning when the roads are empty, there's nothing more annoying than sitting at a junction when there's no traffic.

I think you're right about turning left on a red light, it works in the USA except they turn right. +1

One thing I would change about junctions here is stick in roundabouts at major cross roads where possible. As said previously, there is too much time spent sitting at lights when the road is clear. And traffic lights could be in operation for peak times/rush hour. Good idea, if only they remembered to turn them off, theres a lot of roundabouts near us with lights going 24 hours a day!

They use this system at some roundabouts so why not use it more often.

maybe the road planners will listen to the motorists one day :Pyshic_C5UYG8:

Pleiades

05-02-12 10:27

I've always thought that roundabouts with traffic lights on kind of defeat the object of having a roundabout in the first place! (But I can understand why you might want to have lights at peak times, but only at peak times.) Hardwick roundabout in King's Lynn is the worst example locally; 4 sets of lights on the roundabout itself and one on each of the entry to it. It's a pain in the arse and totally pointless, particularly at in the dead of night when your the only sole for literally miles around.

Fiddich

05-02-12 12:21

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 167815)

I work shifts too and at silly o'clock in the morning when the roads are empty, there's nothing more annoying than sitting at a junction when there's no traffic.

I can think of one thing - getting a ticket for doing 48mph on a 40mph dual carriageway at 5am with no other traffic on the road in an industrial area. And the copper wondered why I was getting so 'upset'.

Graham

05-02-12 17:00

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 167815)

One thing I would change about junctions here is stick in roundabouts at major cross roads where possible. As said previously, there is too much time spent sitting at lights when the road is clear.

A few years ago some bright spark thought it a good idea to install traffic lights at two large roundabouts in Boston. There was then always more traffic waiting and after a while the lights disappeared!

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