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GBX 02-02-12 12:58

3rd service requirements on a tenere?
 
So, my local yamaha garage has gone bust and has now closed down :Mandy:

So i took the tenere to a new kawasaki garage as its the only garage close by locally for its 3rd service, i am just wondering if anyone knows what work should had been carried out, i did ask for it itemised?! But they just started to explain to me about somthing else and i was strapped for time and left without getting an itemised list of what work was carried out.

I am due to go back tomorrow to have some rear brake pads fitted and a new inner tube, i will definately ask for the itemised list from my service last week and have them hand write it if they need to! but i want to make sure they are doing all the service parts they need to be doing... from what i could tell, they just topped up my engine oil and checked brake pads and tyre pressures... my brake fluid hasent been topped up and im not sure what other work they should be doing on the 3rd service... they charged me �70 for that!

If anyone could give me a sort of list of what should had been done that would be fantastic! my service book is in french =[

Thanks ahead, any help on this would be great!

uberthumper 02-02-12 13:05

Third as in 12,000 miles?

GBX 02-02-12 13:08

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Originally Posted by uberthumper (Post 167697)
Third as in 12,000 miles?

Well, here is the thing, i probably should have 12,000 miles on it by now, but i only commute 5 mins to work each day and have a mere 3200 on it... I just thought it was "due" a service :017:

fac191 02-02-12 13:25

you can download a manual from this site, also you can get a haynes manual for it.i got mine from halfords.

uberthumper 02-02-12 13:33

Should be serviced every 6,000 miles or every year, whichever comes first. How old is your bike and when was the last service done?


Basically, the services are as follows:

6.000 miles/1 year : Change the oil, check nothing is falling off

12,000 miles/2 years: Change the oil and filter, check the valve clearances, grease all the chassis bearings, make sure nothing is falling off.


TBH if you're not doing many miles I don't know if I'd bother with the valve clearances, especially if you're paying someone else to do it, as it's a pretty time consuming job, and they're extremely unlikely to have gone out of spec in 3200 miles.

I'd also be very wary of trusting a non-Yam garage to change the oil and get the right amount back in, especially if you haven't got a user manual for them to refer to.

GBX 02-02-12 14:17

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Originally Posted by uberthumper (Post 167700)
Should be serviced every 6,000 miles or every year, whichever comes first. How old is your bike and when was the last service done?


Basically, the services are as follows:

6.000 miles/1 year : Change the oil, check nothing is falling off

12,000 miles/2 years: Change the oil and filter, check the valve clearances, grease all the chassis bearings, make sure nothing is falling off.


TBH if you're not doing many miles I don't know if I'd bother with the valve clearances, especially if you're paying someone else to do it, as it's a pretty time consuming job, and they're extremely unlikely to have gone out of spec in 3200 miles.

I'd also be very wary of trusting a non-Yam garage to change the oil and get the right amount back in, especially if you haven't got a user manual for them to refer to.

Yeah i have been treating it as a yearly kinda thing with the intervals, just keeping everything upto scratch really, the bike is april 09, and i had it serviced i beleive at the beggining of last year (i think) i don't have my book on me, but the recent service was the 3rd time it had been done since sold (3 stamps in the book, the latest being an ugly kawasaki stamp!)

uberthumper 02-02-12 14:54

Also worth noting that you're supposed to change the coolant every three years, regardless of mileage.

GBX 02-02-12 15:02

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Originally Posted by uberthumper (Post 167705)
Also worth noting that you're supposed to change the coolant every three years, regardless of mileage.

I see! should that of been included in the service or somthing i do on my own? or have to request extra for them to do? I really need to go get me a haynes manual me thinks...:sad1:

duibhceK 02-02-12 15:21

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Originally Posted by GBX (Post 167695)
my brake fluid hasent been topped up

It should never be necessary to top up brake fluid. If the level is low that can mean a couple of things:
- there is a leak somewhere, in which case you have serious issues that are not going to be solved by toppping up. This is not the most likely cause.
- it was not properly filled up during the last brake fluid change.
- the brake pads are worn down. Put in new ones and the fluid level should be near the top again.

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Originally Posted by GBX (Post 167707)
I see! should that of been included in the service or somthing i do on my own? or have to request extra for them to do? I really need to go get me a haynes manual me thinks...:sad1:

Changing coolant is not that hard to do yourself.
If you are having your service done by a dealer that is not used to working on your bike it is always goo dto tell them exactly what needs to be done. Normally your owners manual has an overview chart with the attention points for each service interval.

uberthumper 02-02-12 15:23

You'd probably have to ask. It's pretty easy to do yourself though.

Definitely get a Haynes.

GBX 02-02-12 15:36

Affirmative, thank you duibhceK, i will look into a coolant change too asap.

My rear pads are being changed over tomorrow, so i guess this is the reason the fluid level is low, and they are very worn so hopefully after the pad change it should be bumped back upto where it needs to be!

It is a pain my manual is in French, i don't know why it is! So yeah a haynes muchly needed for sure, i have a friend going to spot one for me in halfords as you said uberthumper, this afternoon, hopefully they have some in stock there too!

Thank you for your replys, a massive help to me so far!

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 02-02-12 16:13

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Originally Posted by GBX (Post 167711)
My rear pads are being changed over tomorrow,

Brake fluid should be changed every 2 years, according to the service schedule (cars & bikes).

Good time to do it, while doing the pads.

I make sure mines changed, but to be honest it never makes the brakes feel any different - maybe it's just being cautious ?

GBX 02-02-12 16:29

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Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 167712)
Brake fluid should be changed every 2 years, according to the service schedule (cars & bikes).

Good time to do it, while doing the pads.

I make sure mines changed, but to be honest it never makes the brakes feel any different - maybe it's just being cautious ?

I did speak to the chap about this at kawasaki, he said generally unless the fluid is discoloured or as he put it "urine that would make you want to go to the doctors colour" it's generally ok, but stated he would check it and change it if he deems it need be done... should i press him to change it out anyways, or?

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 02-02-12 17:46

I'm not sure I'd trust the effectiveness of my brake fluid to a visual check....

I know when my wife's car went in for it's service the did some kind of 'boiling point' check on the fluid. I have no idea what that is, or how they do it, but it sounds very much like there is a more scientific method of checking the water content than visual.

GBX 02-02-12 17:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 167716)
I'm not sure I'd trust the effectiveness of my brake fluid to a visual check....

I know when my wife's car went in for it's service the did some kind of 'boiling point' check on the fluid. I have no idea what that is, or how they do it, but it sounds very much like there is a more scientific method of checking the water content than visual.

Gotcha, thanks for the heads up on that! i reckon the best plan will be to grab that haynes manual for myself from halfords (if they have one!), find out the deal with changing coolant and brake fluid and do them both myself this weekend, then i know where i am at with it all i guess...

Pleiades 02-02-12 21:58

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Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 167716)
I'm not sure I'd trust the effectiveness of my brake fluid to a visual check....

You could always try one of these:

http://www.powerenhancer.co.uk/produ...fluid-test-kit

I bought one last time I serviced the bike just out of interest to see what was going on with the fluids. For �4.99 it added a bit of interest to the usual mundane servicing experience.

irishguyonabike 02-02-12 23:23

As brake fluid gradually absorbs moisture over a period of time which reduces the boiling point, you may not notice the difference during normal use. In a heavy use situation - long down hill, high speed emergency braking etc. the fluid can boil due to the heat build up and once that happens you have vapour in the system rather than fluid. This means no brakes and a brown trouser moment.!!

Brake fluid isn't that expensive and on most bikes it's an easy job to bleed the new fluid through the system. I personally change mine every two years as I've witnessed the effects of vapour lock (as its known...). Better to be safe than sorry.

That's my tuppence worth ;-)

minkyhead 03-02-12 00:48

i wouldnt worry too much at 3200 miles
if theres any suspicion over the brake fluid though and your not sure get a expert opinion ..

change the oil checkall brake pads fluids ,chain and front sprocket check the air filter check nuts and bolts around the chassis ...get on and ride

ive just stuck halfords oil in it ..clean foam filter when needed ///and some rear pads and a chain in ///18k miles they are tough bikes you should be fine


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