Possible new Product for Tenere
 

Hi guys,

Down at Metal Mule we are thinking about Developing a 2 into 1 exhaust for the 660 Tenere. If that sounds like a good idea give us some feed back! :)

Apologies if I've posted in the wrong section. Been a very hectic couple of weeks! If a helpful mod could move it if that is needed that would be great! :D

Dave

2 into 1 ???

But the Tenere is a sigle can system........ It 'looks' like 2 pipes, but it is only one, with two outlets.

I know you guys are normally competitors, but can I suggest this as an idea to consider :

Speak to MTC, and come up with a joint product, so you get the MTC can, with some Metal Mule toolbox/tube product that uses the space under the seat ??

I only ask as I wonder if you could produce and sell a can at the same sort of �� that MTC charge. And I'm not sure if the market for these would be enough to return your investment and opperating costs.

To my mind, that would be a good solution, but happy for someone to shoot it down.

+1

Interesting Idea about the tool tube. It guess I didn't explain it right, but I think you get the idea of only having one exhaust ratther than two. But would that be a mod that would be worth while?

<sarcarsic icon> I'm not sure, but here's a picture of my bike ->

http://www.smokingtailpipes.com/Gallery/MTC-007.jpg


Yes, it is a fine idea. a look around the forums will show that most Tenere owners were crying out for a single can option, since 2008. Earlier this year MTC answered.

My point above (and I did get what you were asking initially) is that there is already a single can option available, so unless you can compete on pricing it's not going to be financially viable for you (yes thats your choice not mine I agree). But what people are looking for now is a way to exploite the space under the seat, which is why I suggested you work with a current solution to give people what they want.

People will always look for choice, but ��� talks, and a can is a can at the end of the day. It's never going to have huge performance differences on a 50hp bike and the sound is going to be very similar too. So to be viable you would need to be selling it at under �200 to compete.

It's nice to see suppliers answering the customers with solutions to issues they have, rather than some suppliers providing solutions to problems they invent (such as the TT rectifier protection plate that bolts to the steel mounting plate - pointless!). A tool tube/box thingame would be a solution to customer issue, in my view.

Cheers for the reply, something to fill the gap sounds like an idea! You have a very nice bike by the way!

Any thing else you would like for you Tenere?

ok i am crying out for a single can. but i realy don't like the way the can sits on the bike as per all twin cans or single can as per the mtc one above.
they just don't flow nicely with the line of the bike. if you could make one that did then i buy one tomorrow. well as long as the price is realistic as i'm not going to fork out �500 odd quid.

• single can following orginal lines of bike
• underseat storage mod (see other thread on this forum for someone elses attempt)
• or tool tube on other side of bike.
• tail tidy that uses original rear led light but gets rid of masive plastic hanger.
• 18inch rear wheel (lightweight cos the std one is massive cast item)
• twin disc 21inch front (again lightweight)
• fully adjustable rear shock
• re-work front forks to allow full damping adjustment or a kit to take a WR front end (twin disc though)
• Lightweight bolts that hold the tank in place (front of the tank, massive long mild steel jobs) - have you felt their weight!

Those long bolts that hold the tank in place are long so the plastic tank protectors dont cave in and damage the tank in the event of a fall, and the weight saving would be so little it would be point less.

Attention METAL MULE

Please note MTC is already producing a successful one can system for the Tenere which is being sold under licence with us as agents through our forum only.

You can of course act as competitors through your own website and stores, no one is stopping you from doing so and the world is your oyster, but for this product we have a contractual agreement with MTC and cannot advertise anyone else's similar products here at competitor level, which I hope you appreciate.

Come up with something more off road related, such a paniers, protection and we will be more than happy to support you but on exhausts I am afraid, someone's already taken the spotlight.

Cheers

My short list:
Mod to turn off the ABS when going offroad!
Sturdy handguards with big wind deflectors - with a *proper* fit!
Pretty rear rack with lots of strapping options

If you can built something like this:

http://www.tkpipes.com.au/cube/image...Rear_3.4_3.JPG

http://www.tkpipes.com.au/cube/image...l_Box_Side.JPG

http://www.tkpipes.com.au/cube/image..._660_Z_006.JPG

(from the australian TK-pipes)

it's a single can muffler with a dummy can as toolbox on the rhs.

... you might have some business. Note that the TK-pipes system has no EU approval (same goes for UK approved systems...)

HJ

them tks are a good idea ... there is a few here who use soft luggage

and heat sheilds would be cool ....

so tool tube one side exhaust the other with removable sturdy and replacable shields that double up as bash guards for the system would interest me

no one seems to give any thought with this can job that the tenere and suchlike bikes get dropped a fair bit
i know of no one who produces a sensible feature like this...pleanty of fancy twin systems that knacker up taking luggage and are worth squat after one simple drop dont interest me ..
options could be pretty exhaust only ..or with heat sheilds only or ...heat sheild incorperating a luggage point and support
i could then save weight have a better breathing bike reatain my luggage ..perhaps bolt on a nice heatyshield when im not toting panniers ..
also it would be better for riders that carry pillions safer and maby more comfy

dreaming i know but i wont swop exhausts if im carrying panniers
i guess that would interfere with your main business ..but then again i would never use ally panniers off road [dont ask ...ouch ] of course theres pleanty on a budget too that may not otherwise purshase paniiers anyway

somthing as described above would be a world first ..he he

heres two good reasons the reason i wouldnt buy a unprotected exhaust ..i think there may be a few more of us out there too
thanks to tin tin for example 2 :103:
http://img828.imageshack.us/img828/8849/pandue.jpg
By minkyhead at 2011-05-13
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/1010/footsi.jpg
By minkyhead at 2011-06-26

The point about the single exhaust not following the lines of the bike is quite valid. I was going to buy the MTC single can ill I looked closely and the problem seems to lie with the connector pipe. It seems to take a short cut to the silencer and looks odd . It does not follow the line of the original. The price of the MTC is good but looks like a hurried design. The tool tube issue is seriously valid . The tail looks odd and needs a tube that fits the line of the tail like a dummy silencer ?. Have a close look and you will see for yourself.

Thanks Minky hahahahaaaa for the second picture .......................oh my that was a hard day for me .. and u know it .. heheeee oh well least I can laugh about it ...........Cant wait for the next ride out n next time without the Tourance's ... maybe with some mud munchers ...Cool .. AAh sorry for getting off the subject . Yes I would like to see something on the lines of tool industructble box for under the the tail arch using up waisted space .
Martin

Thanks for the advice guys! Its nice to make sure we are going in the right direction! :)

We shall put our thinking caps on and see what we can come up with!

Good on ya Mule. I'm watching this space.

The original idea, a single can, is good. But you can buy one, since a year or so from off-the-road: http://www.off-the-road.de/XT-660-Z-...-Z-Tenere.html

... it's EU approved... and.... MADE IN GERMANY!!

... so hard to beat ;)

The only reason I didn't buy the Aussie's TK-Pipes solution is that it hasn't got an EU approval (and produces more dB then allowed) and that could get me into trouble (especially in some parts of Germany were they specifically target motorists on EU approved exhausts).

So ... if you could deliver a single can + storage + EU approval, you would have an unique product that would make sense to replace the standard exhaust. Better sound, better performance, more storage ... sounds good to me.

If you would succeed I would be really pissed having my LeoVince's (had to replace the original: it fell apart).

HJ

And another vote for a tidy tail on the tenere...

Have a look on the X Racing website.

You can buy a single pipe in a variety of finishes and a matching empty can to go with it. Add a couple of end caps and there you are!!

You can make a single link pipe that allows the silencer to follow the lines of the bike.
I know because I did just that.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_4284.jpg

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_4285.jpg

For sale if anyone wants it...

does it clear OE panniers? flat, side on view picture? connection type/size? cost?

It's been off the bike for a while now, but I could fit my pannier frames over it ok. Couldn't tell you about Yam panniers as I don't have them.
It clamps straight onto the OE collector, and then I bolt the hanger through the 10mm hole in the subframe that my panniers mount to.

The OTR design does not follow the line of the bike either. Why not simply get the inlet pipe to follow the same line as OE? Then the silencer has to do the same? Tool box great, some sort of shield to fill the gap left under the seat might also be needed as part of the system.