Had Enough! broke down three/four times now with a similar problem, not good for a b
 

Hi Guy's, Now broke down three/four times now with a similar problem, (regulator / battery, no charge) :097:dealers have been brill, but it seams mine is the only one with probs out of 7/8 sold in the last year! not good for a bike with less than 6000mles and under a year old :119:, so I may change it ( other half’s not happy taking it to Scotland on hols and breaking down miles from anywhere’s, with no mobile reception!!) I have a loan xj6 at the moment, I realy love to ten but this is not good for yam or my state of mind:sad11:Sorry guy's
TDMalcolm

Sorry to hear of your problems. Has your dealer fitted a new loom and regulator / rectifier?

Hi Doug, the reg/rec has been replaced as has the battery, the wiring loom connectors to /from the reg has been done and totaly sealed ......:angry9: the display disapeared the ecu gave 45/46 error codes = low voltage etc after a while engine died (just got to the dealers yard!) left it in discust ..not happy, dealer offered me a new divvy for �500 exchange otr:confused5: don't know what to do now, Hummmmm
TDMalcolm

Might it be a stator rather then regulator/rectifier problem? Have they checked the output from the generator and through the loom prior to the reg/rec?

It really shouldn't be a recurring problem once it is fixed correctly.

Jx

Hi Jmo, I don't know yet, I'm going to see them tomorrow to see what's happening:120: I'll be asking the question!
TDMalcolm

The question I would be asking is, why haven't you fixed it.....

I agree with Jenny, my thoughts are that the mechanic hasn't solved the problem, just fixed some of the symptoms.

...this suggests to me that they don't really know what to do themselves and think that the above solution is the easiest way out. I know "your" dealer quite well! :eusa_wall:

To me the mechanic has not found the problem, he needs to look further into the charging system. Let one of the senior mechanic's ride your bike home for a week to check the charging & amp draw, they will soon fix it if they have to walk home.

Hi Guy's n gall ;-) Thanks for all your input, i have to admit that I asked for the divvy quote as i was so P*$�ed off and i had a divvy before year or so ago and liked it, so I asked the question:tongue3:, just phoned the dealer workshop spoke to the Manager (Adie), he informed me that he thinks the reg/rec and loom is causing the probs :break: Hummmm this is under warantee but is it likely to happen again once out????? and what are Yamaha doing about this, it must be costing them a fortune:disgust:, still may go with the the Divvy, as least the otherhalf can get her leg over it:-D :091: :thumbsup: keep you informed........
TDMalcolm

But they changed the reg/rec, loom connectors and the battery?

If they changed all of those components for new (baring in mind it is very unlikely it was all three that were wrong in the first place which suggests they didn't isolate the cause properly), then I cannot see why you would still be having problems - unless they didn't reassemble it properly?

Like I say, if you're not getting enough charge to the battery and those components have been checked/changed, then it could well be a stator issue... alternatively, it could also be an earthing issue - either somewhere between the stator-reg/rec/battery, or indeed another earth issue that is draining the battery?

Well, it's not all that common a problem to be fair... yes a few people on here have suffered/complained about it, but when you consider how many Teneres have been sold now, its by no means a 'common' problem... even if the Capt' would love every owner of an XT660 to be a member of this forum I'm sure xx

Good luck with getting it sorted - if your dealer is drawing a blank, then an independent vehicle (motorcycle) electrical specialist ought to be able to pin-point the problem...

Jx

ps. a Divvy?! - behave!

Hi guy's Got the Ten back tonight, will explain resolution when not in bath with iPad and forum kicking me off for takin to long to type:BaseballHat_LNY2EG:
Tdmalcolm

In my local dealer the Divvy is priced at about �5700 ish and the 'Ten is up for �6500 ish. So if you're gonna do a swap i'd be asking HIM for �500.

Why not just a new 'Ten? I'd be pushing for that.

Pete.

Hi Guy's, Now after checking the conector/loom to the reg/rec found that a couple of pins not making very good contact- moved pins and started charging (aparently modern connector pins not as good as older ones:angry7:) and found slight water ingres in reg/rec part of connector ( faces upwards and collects all crap etc)...,resolution! loom repaired with new connector, reg/rec block replaced and relocated with new mounting bracket above and behind rad but in front of coolant tank...with me so far? have done some pic's to explain better, will try to post them, so far so good done @60mls :wow:
TDMalcolm

Hi Pete, just to clearify, the new Divvy offered was a 2009 mod at cost price of 4.5k (ticket price5.5k) offered 4k for Ten = 500 diff, i did pay less than 5k for the Ten in may last year ...still happy with the Ten if these prob are now resolved, we'll see:039:

Sicko!


What's wrong with a human ? ....... :glasses13:

Hummmm must realy get out more:smilies1349::thumbsup[1]:
TDMalcolm

Hope your problems are over, Iv'e been there and done that, my bike seems fine again now it really put me off at the time and took some miles to restore my faith in my bike.

Thing is if you change what for ? I looked at the G650GS but BM seem to have their problems too, snapping chains etc far more dangerous than what a lot of us Ten owners have suffered.

Get the miles in while its under warranty and rstore your faith.

Mine happened 2 months before the warranty finished !!!!

Hi Stuxtttr, Yes, It does put you off, although i feel better about the modification made, my other half is still not happy taking it on tour in the wilds of gods ridin country (Scotland):sad1: and we need to to take the Ten (or A bike). The only other machine i like /suites my style of riding is a Versys...sorry i swore:retard:
I've got the pix to show you all, but tried to post them and failed:moonshine[1]: anyone know how?
TDMalcolm

There are people, and garages up there you know.......

Google photobucket, open an account and follow instructions from there to upload your pics into your new account.
When your pics are in your photobucket account you can then resize them down to 640x360.
When you hover the cursor over each pic you will see several options, one of which is "img code". Copy and paste this into your post and hey presto, pics.
Its easier than it sounds, honest.

http://i1033.photobucket.com/albums/...0/PB200523.jpg

Humm , not where i like to go:BaseballHat_LNY2EG:!!!!
TDMalcolm

Hi Stumpydave, thanks for that i'll sort it out and let you see the results, cheers TDMalcolm:041:

Hi Guy's, try this link! hope it works????:blob1:

https://picasaweb.google.com/1104007...CNqP85-Lz-fPVw
TDMalcolm

Here you go


http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...g/SANY0006.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...g/SANY0007.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...g/SANY0008.jpg

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...g/SANY0009.jpg

So let me get this right... You fixed it (hopefully) in the end, not the dealer? Or did you mean that they (dealer) replaced the connector block etc and you then mounted it in its new location? Sorry if I'm being a little slow here!

Hi Pleiades, Yes the Dealer workshop manager and one of the top mechanics did the work,:115: as they where not happy with original location:icon_salut: when you look at the "normal" xt's the reg/rec is nowhere near the front ready to collect all the crud, salt and rubbish so y do it on the Ten??:eusa_think: the other half and i will think about weather to change the bike over the weekend......:017:
TDMalcolm
And thank's to Petebog for the pic's, nice one:headbang:

Thanks for clearing that up!

Your welcome, As a side thing where do you teach? As i work for ncc:eusa_sick: ...for my sins, just curious :039:
TDMalcolm

Fakenham - just up the road from you.

always wondered why the reg/rec was put there ?

mod looks good did that have to fabricate a new barcket ?

Hi Stuxtttr, I don't know... but i'll find out for you, it is a good job , should have been done like this at birth:032:
TDMalcolm

cheers looks good

I'm sorry to be negative, but if a dealer had done that to my bike I would have forced it sideways where the sun don't shine.
It's a cop out fix, it's a bodge. They obviously haven't found the source of the fault hence the continued issue. As a result you've got a not very old bike that's been devalued to (at the least) the cost of two parts of plastic.
I hope the bike is how you want it mate, and continues to run and run now.

Like I said, I don't like to be negative but for that to be the result of a Yamaha dealer's workshop is a disgrace.

I'd tend to agree with Tripletom... maybe it's a belt and braces approach, but it shouldn't need to be repositioned like that...

I'd also be concerned about the reg/rec getting hot in the flow of air from the radiator - maybe not in in general (UK) conditions - but if you were working the bike hard off-road or in warmer climes, you'll be surprised how much heat is kicked out of the radiator...

Cook the reg/rec and you're back to square one?

Jx

Hi Jmo, i don't have an issue with this mod being where it is ( try and work out where else to put it!!), but , hay hoe each to their own:surrender:
TDMalcolm

Hi Tripletom, The source of the problem was where to rec/reg unit is located! if you look at the xt's you'll not find it located where all the weather and c*%p can get to it, mess it and the loom up, my question would be if yam can locate it some where's else on the xt's ...then why not on the Ten?? and there is less body work to hide it in and protect it and still keep it cool, i've checked mine after a 30 mile trip from work in this hot wheather and it's just very slightly warm to touch:blob8: Working in an electronic environment and a electronic's engineer for over 30yrs i would find this acceptable :017:
TDMalcolm

Sorry, but me too.


The problem cannot possibly be due to the location of the rectifier assembly, or every Tenere on here, sorry on the road, would be sitting by the side of that same road.

I agree though, the connector could do with some protection, and I did just this to mine with an old plastic lid. I just relocated the horn (which also suffers from being filled with crud) sideways, then put a small guard in front of the rectifier assy. All of which can be reversed and the bike returned to original condition in about 10 minutes.

The connecter works perfectly well when it is correctly assembled, mine is, and three years on the contacts still look like the day it rolled out of the shop.


If you are happy then thats fine, it's your bike after all - The shop is going to have some explaining to do if it happens again though.....

As somebody on here advised - I cut up an old inner tube and put a 'boot' over the rectifier connection and fitted a mud flap onto the front mud guard - problem with crap getting all over the rectifier solved!

Thanks Guy's for all input, thread closed:laughing7:
TDMalcolm