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Ilkleyal 04-02-11 21:20

New Sat nav Ram adaptor
 
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sat nav adaptor

Ilkleyal 04-02-11 21:24

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Forgot a pic

stoic bloke 04-02-11 22:05

nice job!, certainly better than the crappy plastic thing you get with the ram mount setup

bernard

tenyamman 04-02-11 22:06

very good idea.
do you have any problems with bad vibrations.
need to mount a 60csx and was going to use the TT version but this would save heaps of cash.
PM me about the screen thingy would really be keen to try out. was that an idea from another thread i wonder........:thumbsup:

Ilkleyal 04-02-11 22:24

Thanx chaps,

No vibration, its solid as a rock even with the big Zumo 660 hanging of it.

Erik Nilsson 04-02-11 23:32

What would you estimate the price to? :)

Ilkleyal 06-02-11 18:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik Nilsson (Post 148311)
What would you estimate the price to? :)


Because of the comment below, these are not for sale here.

I can do without crap like that.

WhiteYamBen 06-02-11 19:41

�25 for 5 mins of metal work... you could make some money there, just make sure youre punters are deaf dumb and blind.

Ilkleyal 06-02-11 22:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteYamBen (Post 148477)
�25 for 5 mins of metal work... you could make some money there, just make sure youre punters are deaf dumb and blind.


5 mins of metalwork? is that where you make total tat out of old jerry cans?

Must look great

WhiteYamBen 06-02-11 22:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilkleyal (Post 148515)
5 mins of metalwork? is that where you make total tat out of old jerry cans?

Must look great

Please dont get bitter i meant no offence.

I was refering to the fact that a small piece of ally isnt worth �25, a tenner maybe.

and i never got round to making those.

Ilkleyal 07-02-11 08:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteYamBen (Post 148521)
Please dont get bitter i meant no offence.

I was refering to the fact that a small piece of ally isnt worth �25, a tenner maybe.

and i never got round to making those.

Ok Ben
I was offended, I will explain why as you have taken the trouble to explain your comments.

The small piece of Aly is worth about 38 pence at todays prices, the process however is not 5 mins of metalwork.

When something is made on a centre lathe and a milling machine there are costings to take into account. These include tooling, materials and time. lathes and milling machines are charged at a "rate" as well as these are never free (well, none of mine were anyway) Simply put, you can't sell something for the cost of its raw Mtls.

The operations involved in that split collar include producing a Drg, turning OD, boring ID, machining chamfer on doth dias, parting off, machining chamfers on other side, milling slots using correct cutting oils then deburring.
If I was in full scale production of a part like this, I would make it on a sliding head and sell for a tenner because production costs would be very much lower.

I was not hoping to find blind, deaf and dumb punters for this. I was offering a bespoke solution to a mounting issue for those that could appreciate the process and the benefit that such an item could bring. Your comments have made me think that I was perhaps a little too free in offering this service to a forum.

No hard feelings mate, end of the matter please.

Al.

richardsracingmad 07-02-11 08:51

excuse my ignorance...but can I see a pic of the finished article on its own.?

I don't know what this is all about. Will it fit my Snooper Sat Nav Indago.?

Ilkleyal 07-02-11 09:11

http://www.xt660.com/attachment.php?...1&d=1296850682

It's a split collar. It changes your top bar to 22mm for any clamping device, it's nothing specific to any particular sat nav. I made it to allow proper mounting of the ram clamp that came with the 660. Can hold the ram mount and shake the bike about with it now, this wont move "when clamped in position with the ram clamp of course"


Al.

richardsracingmad 07-02-11 09:18

oh ok...what is the OD of the Tenere top bar then?

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 07-02-11 09:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoic bloke (Post 148299)
nice job!, certainly better than the crappy plastic thing you get with the ram mount setup

bernard

Too right, those RAM plastic bits are worse than useless, dammed thing bounces around like crazy when you use them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteYamBen (Post 148477)
�25 for 5 mins of metal work... you could make some money there, just make sure youre punters are deaf dumb and blind.

OK, you explained later on, but can you please put your brain into gear before letting your fingers loose on your keyboard in future.

Ilkleyal has gone through the trouble of making a bespoke part to fit a very real problem, if you don't like it, or think its too expensive then it is less effort on your part to say nothing.

If you think you can produce the collar for less, then please go ahead, nothing wrong with a free market. The cost is the cost, if you don't like it don't buy it!

Ilkleyal 07-02-11 09:48

Sorry guys

To clear the point up it was me that said "I can do without crap like that".

I was speaking of comments made ref the possible supply of these things and I accept that in this case it looks like I was quoting someone.

I was not quoting, I was annoyed and I apologise for the above confusion.


Al.

tripletom 07-02-11 10:58

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Originally Posted by richardsracingmad (Post 148547)
oh ok...what is the OD of the Tenere top bar then?

From hazy memory I think it is 14mm. There is a chance I may well be wrong, it's been a long time since I measured it when I made up the camera brackets, and then map holder.

Ilkleyal 07-02-11 11:02

It's 12.7 on mine which is approximate half inch

Al

tripletom 07-02-11 12:01

I would go with Al's assessment, it's been almost two years since I measured mine!

dazzerrtw 07-02-11 23:38

For a minute then I thought I had loged on to ukgser by mistake :smilielol:

stoic bloke 08-02-11 00:03

..... or heaven forbid advrider......

minkyhead 08-02-11 01:15

firstly i agree the matierial source time and equipment needed to make somthing like that is worth a lot ....
and its a real credit to you for doing it ..if econinmy of scale worked out under a tenner im sure people would buy them
but i understand that was not your objective ..no one seems to value your time ..which at modests rates is a lot of money ....per hour
i would love a lathe ..

when i got me first bench grinder all me chisels ended up about i inch long ..anyway

im just pitching in with what i did with the skinny bar

one of these ...

http://www.adventure-spec.com/shop/r...l/prod_48.html

some halfords car mat and two tiny cable ties ..

its held firm and is good for the job on rough ground .. gets a real good grip doesnt slip or virate loose ..gives a staedy screen .....
its been fine ..no complaints at all

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/9200/img1642du.jpg
By minkyhead at 2011-02-07
http://img577.imageshack.us/img577/3395/satnav.jpg
By minkyhead at 2011-02-07

Ilkleyal 08-02-11 06:19

well done mate, that's what a forum is all about.

Good on ya.

Al.

steveD 08-02-11 09:58

.....or alternatively ditch that as anyboby knows to clamp onto a cylindrical object required a lot of force or enough to distort the cylinder so no rotation is there....

http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/a...c/DSCF0378.jpg

http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/a...c/DSCF0384.jpg

http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/a...c/DSCF0385.jpg

and then the ram mouint can be used for another wing mirror for trail riding. Unscrew standard mirrors and use this instead.............

http://i995.photobucket.com/albums/a...c/DSCF0372.jpg

minkyhead 08-02-11 16:55

thats a neat set up too..
it depends on the cradle you use i suppose and if on a single bike with a hard wired cradle its a real neat idea ..although to be honest im not that keen on the drilling bit .. you could fit a ball by doing that easy enough
a kink ...maby.. one things for sure it aint movin ...kink ? or hole personal choice

my set up is for a nuvi 550 i didnt want a fixed cradle
the great feature of this sat nav is that it can be moved to a different bike which is what i needed
ten seconds to swap without the need for a expensive cradle

which i have to quite often
so the simple 10 quid ball set up suits me a lot better

,..ive never needed to wire it hard as it will charge or work direct off the power socket if needed
but has has a usful battery life of 6 hours which for most days is fine
i rarely plug it in..

trusty vee strom this is me work bike and its never missed a beat in 52k http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9451/img0814m.jpg
By null at 2010-02-07

me vara is mrs minkys luxery tourer ..its me 2nd i love the softess of this bike ..as a long legged tourer its fantastic its underestamated ..efforless unstressed cruising two up ..like sittin in me front room ..
600 miles to go and pissing down theres not many other other bikes id rather be on ..
http://img837.imageshack.us/img837/1829/gatedq.jpg
By null at 2010-11-07

Ilkleyal 08-02-11 20:03

Great input but one advantage of the split collar is to avoid causing a kink and transfer torque applied into clamp load. the friction caused by the split collar is exponentially greater than that of the bare unbolt which is transferring clamp load onto a single point on a radius. You can guess the rest.

Al

minkyhead 08-02-11 20:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilkleyal (Post 148773)
Great input but one advantage of the split collar is to avoid causing a kink and transfer torque applied into clamp load. the friction caused by the split collar is exponentially greater than that of the bare unbolt which is transferring clamp load onto a single point on a radius. You can guess the rest.

Al

the coller is best i agree
from what i can see the ram thing grips at four diagonal points
as a result of this thread ive took the ram thing off to check and the tube is absalutly fine ..un marked

i see now the link wasnt clear at all im sorry
i referted to it and failed to notice it lacks the bottom coller


http://www.adventure-spec.com/shop/r.../prod_228.html

this is the fitting as is
the above link may clear up the confusion ive caused
it really does grip well

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/7200/rap319.jpg
By minkyhead at 2011-02-08

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8404/img14450.jpg
By minkyhead at 2010-11-25

g00ner 08-02-11 20:56

Considering the expense in purchasing a TT Rider or Zumo - and the fact I already own a TT Europe for the car...I just purchased one of these. It's not bluetooth but if it works I'll be happy

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

minkyhead 08-02-11 21:27

it looks good for the job
pleanty of people use a tankbag window and clingfilm and get on ok

seems like a good buy like the next step up

while were on the subject

the 550 is halfway house about 230 quid but it has been great
totally weather proof and reliable
such a good battery life too
i teach new riders and it has 24 test routes in it so its been used alot in the last 18 months in all weather ..
touchwood its stood up to it all i cant fault it ..

RickM 08-02-11 22:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by g00ner (Post 148778)
Considering the expense in purchasing a TT Rider or Zumo - and the fact I already own a TT Europe for the car...I just purchased one of these. It's not bluetooth but if it works I'll be happy

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...=STRK:MEWNX:IT

That looks pretty neat and not a bad price either. Would also be good for mobile phones - eg Google Maps etc on iPhones/Androids

CaptMoto 12-02-11 10:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteYamBen (Post 148477)
�25 for 5 mins of metal work... you could make some money there, just make sure youre punters are deaf dumb and blind.

WhiteWhamBamThankYouMa'm, look that was an unkind remark. At least the man is building something that help solving a problem and he is charging for his service. You don't have to buy if you are not interested but since we are a peaceful community here, we, I in particular would prefer to keep it that way, hence the blind deaf & dumb thing was inappropriate.
Let's have no more of it please

Thanks

CaptMoto 12-02-11 10:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazzerrtw (Post 148673)
For a minute then I thought I had loged on to ukgser by mistake :smilielol:

Yeah go on... offend me and my "house" too in the process, why don't you? :dito:

:mbounce:

g00ner 12-02-11 20:15

Fitted the new satnav waterproof bag and a 12V outlet today

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...7/P1000771.jpg

Quite happy with it, may fiddle a bit so the ram mount points up and takes out some of the shake

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p...7/P1000772.jpg

12V outlet came from accumate (Model TM78). Plugs straight in to the accumate charging lead already fitted to the battery - can be swopped over easy by removing the seat. I put the small Kriega bag on the bars to tidy the excess satnav lead - Total cost was less than �30 :icon_thumleft:


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