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GBX 28-05-10 00:33

tenere goes 7mph riding just off the cluth?
 
Hi, i was wandering if any other tenere riders have realised that? if you pull off in first gear just using the clutch and let it out fully it goes around 7/8mph without any throttle, just i got my tenere yesterday, and today some friends where looking at it, and revving it very high on the stand and after that it seems to pull alot from the cluth and go quite fast just from idle revs... even though revving the bike in neutral cant really effect anything i wouldnt had thought.
i am sure it was not doing that previously, im a bit confused wether its just me being overly cautious or theres and issue?... i was also thinking it may be the automatic choke working and maybe i never noticed it before... just crazy that idle revs takes it to 8mph?? is this normal?
thanks!

dazmatic 28-05-10 08:51

That does seem quite high.

First question is, have you got the idle speed set correctly?
Should be around 1500-1600 mark if im not mistaken (won't get it spot on mind)

Old Git Ray 28-05-10 10:02

It is a bit like that, it is an overgeared bike.

A lot of riders put a 14T sprocket on the front, this slows the bike down a bit, allows it to wheelie off the throttle and does not slow the top speed down or increase the fuel consumption much. Makes it much more fun though.

Down side is that the speedo is another 7% out on top of the 10% it has already. A "SPEEDO HEALER" will sort it but thats another �60 ish.

GBX 30-05-10 00:27

@ dazmatic: No i havent touched anything since i bought it, not sure wether the previous owners did...

@ Old Git Ray: Thanks for the advice! the Tenere is new to me so i'm kinda just getting used to it, and yeah it can be fun to play with tooth counts on sprockets... but i best wait a little while and get used to the bike before i wheely from just opening the throttle haha! i just ordered an off road mud guard for the front, i think it gives the tenere a nice look :)

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 30-05-10 07:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Git Ray (Post 129701)
A lot of riders put a 14T sprocket on the front, <snip>

or increase the fuel consumption much.

After extensive 'testing', with multiple bikes, I have to disagree with that.

At cruising speed, the bike is running more revs, this in turn means more fuel - lots more fuel.

Over a couple of thousand miles with the following bikes;

Bike 1: Akrapovics & K&N Filter, 15T sproket
Bike 2: Single can (no Cat) , Kev Fuel Mod & Foam filter, 15T Sproket
Bike 3 : Completely Stock
Bike 4 : DNA Filter, PC-V, Stock cans and 14T


Bike 4 was consistantly using .5 to 1 litre of fuel per full tank over the others. With the DNA filter and PC-V I think it is going to be a little richer, but compared to Bike 2 I think the comaprison should be about the same.

The riding was alot of fast off-road and some open road work.

After looking at what the 14T delivers over the 15T I am now of the opinion that gearing down is totally un-neccasary as the bike is happier at speed over rough ground anyway, and it revs too high when cruising (with a 14T)

I have a 14T that has 2500 miles on it, it will be off the bike today and free to any home that will pay postage - a PM will secure it.

motonacio 30-05-10 08:34

It all depends on what type of riding you do and where you do it. I have a 15 tooth on my R in the UK which is mostly used on road and is fine but I have a 14 tooth on my R in Spain where most of my riding is on steep mountain roads and lots of off-road goat tracks and I find the extra pulling and more immediate throttle control on the 14 is a much better combination. High speeds off road is a no-no in such conditions and my bikes have different maps to suit the extra torque needed in the mountains.

stoic bloke 30-05-10 11:47

hi, i don't believe there is anything to worry about, as long as the revs are around the numbers that dazmatic has suggested at tickover,

why do you need a bike to do less than 7-8 mph at tickover? its vary rare even offroading, yes in really tight places. try using the clutch to regulate the speed.

i know it sounds odd but a little faster and your balance is greatly improved something to do with the centrifugal effect of the wheels acting on the spindles, you don't need to know the theory just that it works[does for me]

i as gulgo, agree that for mixed speed riding keep the 15 tooth, if you mostly do really tight slow stuff a 14 or a change of bike is needed

my 2p's worth, stoic

GBX 01-06-10 09:55

great stuff, as long as i know the bike is suposed to be like that on tick over revs then thats fine, thanks :)

bonjo 01-06-10 11:28

not such an unusual thing!
a vehicle would crepe in 1st without using the accelerator whith the clutch out. The idle rev would drop.
In cars, you can get either an idle stabiliser or anti stall system both of which are great when in traffic or off roading.
On a bike, I would expect the engine to stall unless the idle is set too high or the Z has one of the system I mentioned above

stumpydave 01-06-10 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 129829)
I have a 14T that has 2500 miles on it, it will be off the bike today and free to any home that will pay postage - a PM will secure it.

You have pm


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