I just made 4 holes in the pannier frame then lined these up and made 4 holes in my panniers, put some extra strengthing aluminimum inside the pannier and then bolt them to the frame. ive put a set of rubbers between the frame and pannier to keep a water tight seal and also stop the boxs vibbing. Takes about 10-15mins to remove the panniers but it was cheap

Sorry - i guess i brain-farted.

Inverted handles

[IMG]file:///G:/DCIM/100_PANA/P1000770.JPG[/IMG] http://imgur.com/QHr25.jpg

Rack fixture (ex kitchen unit)

http://imgur.com/Bu9yY.jpg

just to inform everyone, it more expensive to make your own racks then to buy original let's say kappa... Although i have soft bags this option was better and more solid and most important it's cheaper.

Not too sure about this, i got most of the steel at a cheap price as i bought a load of it, not just a few lengths. The welding etc was free and so was the heating equipment. Ok it did take a while and isnt as good as something you would buy off the shelf, but cheaper is never normally as good as off the shelf. !!

Funny you say that, as it didn't cost me a penny...well ok, I bought my mate lunch for helping with the welding. I guess it depends on what resources you have available. Even if I were to have paid for parts it wouldn't have cost more than €10.

If there's a will there's a way :read2:

my experience is based only on what i found here in croatia, the thing is that a people who do this kind of work don't want to deal with such a small job, i asked in a workshop how much would it cost me and the price was almost exact the same like this kappa racks..

seems that your mind is made up to buy it then
from my side it was much cheaper to do it myself and i got to make it the way i want it. custom brackets to tie down soft luggage, pltform on back for topbox type of luggage and much better cross support and support all the way down to the footpegs to make sure you do not put all the strain on the back frame
gb