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cannywabs 26-04-10 01:57

Check This Lunatic Out!!
 
Just found this:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfCRuMZuJjk

Complete nutter!

cannywabs 26-04-10 01:58

The guy on the back is even more nuts!!

CaptMoto 26-04-10 04:01

I guess you guys find these people lunatics, perhaps you are right, but that video which I have seen before is based on a turkish road, where, like most mediterranen cities very busy with traffic, is the only way for a skilled biker to get from a to b, it requires a lot of confidence and yes it is risk prone but no fool undertakes that kind of riding without being very confident and very skilled.

I was born and bred in Naples, Italy, one of the worst traffic infested cities in the world, everything goes there, and it goes very bad for that matter, disorganized and selfish way of driving from cars, vans, trucks etc, traffic lights are rarely respected by drivers, one way systems are often ignored and from a very young age going to school by Vespa type scooter, I have too learnt those skills and I used to ride like that or worse until the day I packed it in in '08.

always on the run

Mike Wright 26-04-10 08:01

Madness and stupid really...one open door and off they go!..... or even worse someone gets out and is hit.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 26-04-10 08:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMoto (Post 127032)
, Italy, <snip> everything goes there, and it goes very bad for that matter, disorganized and selfish way of driving from cars, vans, trucks etc, traffic lights are rarely respected by drivers, one way systems are often ignored

I've ridden there.... and after visiting all the EU countries bar 1 (at the time) I feel qualified to say that the standard of driving is very poor, worse even than parts of the UK, but consistantly bad.

Over half the cages on the roads have dings, and driving seams to take third place behind, drinking coffee, jesticulating, make-up and that all important conversation (in person or mobile, it doesn't seam to matter).

So I would agree with the Capt'n the skills of a rider need to be very well honed, it's kill or be killed.....


(sorry about the shameless mis-edit, but I couldn't resisit :boxing:)

Gerhard Beukes 26-04-10 08:44

There is a fine line where skill and confidence meets stupidity and wrecklessness...and this guy is driving on that line....he will meet a mirror or truck fender one day and make himself part of that tarmac...hopefully not under a 16 wheeler.
There is old saying that goes you must always make sure your angels can fly as fast as you.....:fairy:
GB

DickyC 26-04-10 09:52

There is filtering and there is filtering! Fine, the point has been made that this is accepted practice in some countries, but does that make it best practice. Skills or not, the margin for error is greatly increased with that sort of speed. As we all know, its not the skill of the rider that is normally the cause of accidents and in my view riding like that just serves to lower the reputation of motorcyclists. That said I imagine untli reality 'hits' (pardon the pun) it might be exciting and fun. I think I will stick to my more sedate and, possibly, less confident style thaks.

Still, good entertainment factor video.

uncle ricky 26-04-10 11:29

It looks a lot worse then is. My parents live in Italy and I drive over every year and like Capt said that is the norm for driving/riding and no body takes any notice, in fact if you drive normal you will have more chance of getting hit up the rear, traffic lights I would expect at least two cars if not more to jump the red lights and you just drive/ride accordingly. If you come up to some lights that are changing to red and you slow down to stop, then you can bet that the vehicle behind you will over take you to jump the lights.

Adapt and survive

stumpydave 26-04-10 12:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by DickyC (Post 127052)
There is filtering and there is filtering! Fine, the point has been made that this is accepted practice in some countries, but does that make it best practice. Skills or not, the margin for error is greatly increased with that sort of speed. As we all know, its not the skill of the rider that is normally the cause of accidents and in my view riding like that just serves to lower the reputation of motorcyclists. That said I imagine untli reality 'hits' (pardon the pun) it might be exciting and fun. I think I will stick to my more sedate and, possibly, less confident style thaks.

Still, good entertainment factor video.

Im with Dicky on this one.

I used to ride like this every day through the rush hour traffic to work in salford and could do the trip that used to take an hour in a car in 12 minutes on my bike.
Then one morning I was following another rider who I used to see regularly and he got it wrong. Thankfully for him it wasnt fatal, THIS TIME!

If youre late for work youre late, sh#t happens.

Riding like this with such narrow margins for error will end in tears, its not if, but when.

Once witnessed it will change your mind.

CaptMoto 26-04-10 13:22

Well I know what you are all saying, I have been riding legally on the road for 31 years from the age of 16 to the age of 47 (I packed it in in 08 due to my own choice) I never once kissed tarmac, luck or skill it doesn't matter, fact is, I was able to quit on my own accord.

pommie 26-04-10 14:05

captmoto i dont blame you for giving up riding as it was your on choice but...i used to live in dagenham essex (now australia) and i know what london is like for bad driving in fact i only drove a few times into london its a total nightmare at times!!!

pommie

Ryland Johnson 29-04-10 02:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMoto (Post 127080)
Well I know what you are all saying, I have been riding legally on the road for 31 years from the age of 16 to the age of 47 (I packed it in in 08 due to my own choice) I never once kissed tarmac, luck or skill it doesn't matter, fact is, I was able to quit on my own accord.

Does the fact you are alive to tell the tale mean you condone sheer selfish stupidity?

In general;
That clip demonstrates why bikers get a bad rep and the hospitals refer to us as donors.

I can't for the life of me see what is so brave about being utterly stupid?

If you want brave join the armed forces and do a tour of Afghanistan and face the real deal. The streets are NOT race tracks and we need to be at least a touch civilised. Boy the testosterone of some people!

I know several smokers who are over 80, they are the exception and not the rule though. I also now understand why bike insurance has shot through the roof!

Ryland

CaptMoto 29-04-10 03:26

Oh I never said I was perfect, in fact the contrary, on a bike I am a **** because my survival instinct dictates to me that for me to stay alive I have to believe that the car in front is going to stop suddenly, u-turn without indicating and the one immediately to my right is going to cut me off toward the left, and say he never saw me. Now if I anticipate their carelessness, as a biker I have double the chance not to get troncated by them by overtaking them before they cause me ill health. And that process repeats to the next car and the one after until you get to your destination. Take no prisoners and you'll make it through another day = my guardian angel theory.

Red mist takes over me when I ride (or to be precise = used to) through traffic, I am not condoning the actions of these riders nor mine. By the book yes I am an outlaw.

Fact is Ryland, risk is taken crossing the road on foot, on a pelican crossing with the green man saying "you go boy!" Out comes Mr. White Van on the cellphone with his boss screaming "wtf are you why are you late with your delivery?"

Bad reputation or not, when you buy a bike you should be conscious in the higher risk of being on two wheels entails, as opposed to be a cage around you.

You can have an accident on a bike, either by being knocked off it, or through your own mistakes, sometimes stupidity, carelessness, lack of spacial awareness, wide angle view, incapacity to read the "body language" and potential intentions of all the vehicles closer to you and the ones 500 yards away from you. When you can process all these information on the fly and react as swiftly as possible with the correct move, these capacities, togther with your ability to brake, dodge, and power up when needed, are the skill I am referring to which are what save your life on a bike.

If you take an advance riding course you are taken at fast pace by the instructors through the worst possible case scenarios, with the emphasys on mastering the art of avoiding accidents, not by pu$$yfooting at 30mph on a dual carrageway, no sir!

If, with all due respect to you and your ideals, you think all bikers should ride their bikes behind a car a 10mph because there is traffic and "thou shalt not filter", then you might as well get into a comfy pair of slippers and sit on the couch at home watching Ophrah, with hot cup of coco.

But hey, I repeat: I never said I was perfect. I can hold a perfectly civilized conversation with anyone's daddy, but put me on a bike and I am my own mate no one else's if I start thinking oh... my bad! I've just gone and overtaken that 40' truck on the inside, well in my book I would have a perfect good reasons to have done that, because that truck happened to be veering to the right without indicating, and since his mirrors are way above me he won't even know I am behind it.

Oh and one more thing. I have been 18 months in the army compulsory service, I don't want to get into the stories of what it was like in there, but it is safe to say, it was not a smooth 18 months ride... the worst experience I had while in the army was to be sent to pick dead poeple out of post earthquake rubble including children as young as 2 with their necks and heads bent way back behind their bodies often mutilated.

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/11/23?catId=5

Gerhard Beukes 29-04-10 07:47

someone opened a can a worms with this thread......:066::tank:
Rambo, HELPPP!!!!

CaptMoto 29-04-10 11:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerhard Beukes (Post 127388)
someone opened a can a worms with this thread......:066::tank:
Rambo, HELPPP!!!!

Oh, but... wait! We are all entitled to our opinions, myself included I respect Rylands opinion as well as I expect him and other to respect mine whether they agree or not.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 29-04-10 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keithblade (Post 127426)
I do have my 'tw%t moments when I am sure it is safe to do so.

:072:

What a bad man you are.........

InkaJoe 29-04-10 19:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptMoto (Post 127032)
I guess you guys find these people lunatics, perhaps you are right, but that video which I have seen before is based on a turkish road, where, like most mediterranen cities very busy with traffic, is the only way for a skilled biker to get from a to b, it requires a lot of confidence and yes it is risk prone but no fool undertakes that kind of riding without being very confident and very skilled.

I was born and bred in Naples, Italy, one of the worst traffic infested cities in the world, everything goes there, and it goes very bad for that matter, disorganized and selfish way of driving from cars, vans, trucks etc, traffic lights are rarely respected by drivers, one way systems are often ignored and from a very young age going to school by Vespa type scooter, I have too learnt those skills and I used to ride like that or worse until the day I packed it in in '08.

always on the run

Living in Lima/Peru, i know what you�re talking about!
But, I'm still a bit more conservative: At least i still do have mirrors on my bike!:Driving_6XFY3G:

stuxtttr 30-04-10 16:59

Having spent some time in Spain and Portugal I can only add what a buzz you get from ridding in traffic its so different to open road ridding. But I do the same on my mountain bike too blasting past cars and trucks is what its all about. Else you may as well be in a car stuck with the rest of them with all the creature comforts.

That said I spent 6.5 hours yesterday ridding up from Falmouth in some ****ty weather and I would have given anything to have been in the most embarasing tin box and dry

but hey today the sun is out and the smile is back - RIDE ON :seasaw:

CaptMoto 30-04-10 17:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keithblade (Post 127426)
The simple rule I try to follow is ride to 'Roadcraft' standard. It makes for a smooth fast and well planned ride. Based around forward planning and not knee jerk reactions as seen in the video clip it is a 'system' that works extremely well. Arguabley British Police Motorcyclists are the best in the world and their method will hopefully keep you out of harms way. Having said all that I do have my 'tw%t moments when I am sure it is safe to do so.

Keith, your signature pics and logo are in need of upgrading as well as your username, how about Kei Th M?

TimM 03-05-10 19:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keithblade (Post 127426)
Arguabley British Police Motorcyclists are the best in the world and their method will hopefully keep you out of harms way. Having said all that I do have my 'tw%t moments when I am sure it is safe to do so.

Thanks :thumbsup:

http://ktim.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/...42_wd9Zw-M.jpg

I must confess that this little blighter brings out the :evil4: in me!

http://ktim.smugmug.com/Motorcycles/...56_CnAhC-M.jpg

deiaccord 30-09-10 14:42

Here's a Russion Equivalent but on an R1. Think this guy runs stands to get hurt a lot more if he gets it wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XihQe...layer_embedded

I kind of miss uk traffic filtering, much less call for it here and liked the concentration required at moderate speeds. Don't think I'd be willing to take the risks these guys do though.

maxwell123455 01-10-10 16:14

now thats what i call commuting.

Love the way he just starts off in the middle of a junction and he nearly gets it about 30secs in.

Still beats commuting in a cage:eusa_clap:

dazmatic 01-10-10 17:42

Makes me greatful to live in the countryside in the middle of nowhere in the middle of everwhere, where traffic is minimal and to get anywhere is a good ride.

Plough on!

Gerhard Beukes 02-10-10 00:25

That is not commuting at all!!!, that is looking for your maker !!!.

uncle ricky 02-10-10 10:59

This guy is just chilling out on his bike


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmpX4jCpbDI

afk40 04-10-10 00:18

oh ave seen it all now

Denny 04-10-10 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by deiaccord (Post 140044)
Here's a Russion Equivalent but on an R1. Think this guy runs stands to get hurt a lot more if he gets it wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XihQe...layer_embedded

I kind of miss uk traffic filtering, much less call for it here and liked the concentration required at moderate speeds. Don't think I'd be willing to take the risks these guys do though.

Guys got skills....although if he carrys on like that when the camera isn't rolling he will be biting the bullet :smilies0119:

afk40 06-10-10 23:28

Man,, ma hands were getting sweaty watchin that guy there,,, an i must admit,, i love filtering...as i used to ice skate a lot,, and loved goin the opposite way thru all the people.. i used tae get it wrong here an there,, but very low % o getting a full on hit... but i watched this an ma heart was inma mouth at 5min 25 seconds.. where he squeezed between a lorry an a car......... i done taht once on the M6 passing a caravan.. an a lorry,, i got jammed on a klr 650.. ma bars went intae the caravan, at an angle an as it moved wi me jammed in against the lorry.. it jist pulled me along tae i passed the truck...it could have been deadly... :Driving_6XFY3G:.. i was looking fur the photoshop kidons watching that watchin his head in the mirror an the clouds in the bckground.. an wi his Mit Gloves on as well.. a was watchin his Clutch, an the movemenet he was giving it,, an at one point a thought it was speeded up a wee bit fur it tae look better on vid.. but wi the sound o the engine.. a realy think it was real.....,a cant imagine that guy doin that run everyday.... as thats some straight ring rd thru the city eh !!!!can ye imagine a crash.. or a hold up,,yed be there fur days.. a think al jist keep the xt in 3rd at a steady 30mph..., a still cant believe whit a wis seeing there................ah well ya snooze ya looze........I do know he has bottle experience, an is a good rider.. but a think a lot that was stupidity,, an that commin fae me,, jist bites the bullet.................


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