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Opinions wanted - OTR bashplate tool box
Hi folks!
I've just been chatting with Thorsten at OTR and he is playing around with some designs for a tool-box/container as an accessory to fit on his sump-guard on the Tenere. If you look at the CAD drawing below, you can see he has addressed the main issue owners of the Touratech bash-plate have, that is access to the compartment itself: http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...eenShot001.jpg Instead of having a top hinged lid (that fouls on the exhausts), he has put the pivot further down, so the whole container pivots downwards, and basically rests on the ground once it's been opened - giving full access to the interior (to get at all those Smarties that have shaken themselves out of the packet en route - yummy!) I've suggested using two clasps (they will be lockable btw.) for safety - just incase one ever failed or broke - this is vastly more important than with a top hinged lid design of course; and that the capacity ought to be at least 3 litres or more, so you could put in a water bladder (MSR/Ortlieb bag type) for us rally types... So, what do you think? - and more importantly, would you buy one? Jenny xx |
Looks good, what would the clearance be like between the front wheel & the container?
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Certainly there is quite a bit of space on the Tenere, as the engine is mounted quite far back, and the front edge of the engine/frame is quite chamfered. I've not heard anyone complain who has the Touratech set-up (well, not complain about that issue anyway x), and they use their tool box designed for the KTM 990A. I'm sure OTR will shape it so the wheel can't touch the front edge of the container... J x |
Presumably this won't fit the standard Yamaha bashplate?
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Hi Tim - I doubt it, it's almost certainly specifically designed to fit the profile of the OTR bashplate - the same as fitted on my bike:
http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...t/DSCF2736.jpg xxx |
Im still looking for a bash plate, really like those metal ones.
How will the hinges work if you drove thru mud? I would consider buying one if it isnt too expensive (TT ones at �260 or so) |
I dunno Jenny, What's the chances of a CAD simulation of the unit closed ??
To be honest in it's open position it looks like a dustpan, only requiring a brush to complete the set ...... I'm sure the quality will be unquestionable, but what about the price ? any idea of a rough figure ?? And, the big question, because to my mind if this is a no, then this isn't much use, can it take a normal 275/300mm pair of tyre levers ?? |
Here you go GLUG' - this is basically what it would look like closed...
http://i492.photobucket.com/albums/r...eenShot002.jpg A good point abut being large enough for tyre levers (although to be fair they can be attached to the bike in other places such as frame rails with zip ties, as they are rarely used?) - I'll pass that on... I'll also ask about prospective pricing - the bash-plate is €129.00, and the box will be an add-on accessory, although he may do a combined price... xxx |
Just ordered the bash-plate last week...
... and would have ordered the toolbox if it had been available. 'cos I'm in need of a place to stash some tools (indeed including a set of 30cm levers) for a short Marokko trip. Touratech (smaller) skid-plate is only €109, Touratech toolbox is €52,- I still went for the OTR bash plate cos: - the small Touratech one offers less protection I guess and should be combined with a €85,- roll barr - JMo tested it ;) Anyhow: to solve the storage problem I'll probably go for some sort of tooltube solution (... or very much maybe the TK Pipes solution) HJ |
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Good luck on the Morocco trip - I wish I was going somewhere warm this time of year - I've not been in the UK for two winters now, it's mad here! As for the comparison with the TT set-up, I believe their tool box only fits on the larger of the two bash-plates (it's the same tool box that fits the KTM 990A bash plate), and on the Tenere, the lid fouls the exhaust header pipes, which is basically why OTR came up with this alternative design. Regarding carrying tyre levers - I've seen people zip tie them to the frame tubes next to the airbox/pillion pegs, or even to pannier rails if your bike has them - hopefully you won't need to use them much. In fact you could always just stash them in your luggage for the amount of use they are likely to get? looking at the space available on the front face of the OTR bashplate, I'm not sure there is going to be enough width to get a tyre lever of any size in there (even diagonally), although you can get a nice set of 3 mini tyre levers that work very well (don't ask me how I know this, read TBM in March x) Glad you went for the OTR guard, in my opinion, it is the best one out there at the moment - even if I have recommended a couple of improvements based on my recent rally experience... Jen xx |
Ah, the miricles of modern communication huh?
Just heard back from Thorsten - the internal width of the tool box will be 210mm, so a set of compact (8") tyre levers will fit in no problem. The overall capacity of the container will be around 1 - 1.5 litres, so certainly enough for a decent tool roll and a few sundries like tape, small can of WD40 etc. He also said the lock/latch mechanism will be revised on the final production design. Price TBC shortly... J x |
Looks good on CAD. One reminder: those who have lowered the bike may see the toolbox gets too close to the front tire. I know this would be hard to guarantee or even measure the spare space between the tire and the toolbox when the bike is bouncing up and down. Just something to pay attention to.
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Does look like a good bit of kit If he can bring it out at a reasonable cost then he is onto a winner as it looks a 100 times better than what tourajunk came out with.
just so people know the touracrap set up is �285 - yes that is not a type error for a bash plate and tool box. They can't even justify the development costs because they used the box developed for the Katoom. The touratech bash plate is even made cheaply with the side panels riveted on ??????? |
This looks pretty nice.
But I wouldn't buy one. Not because of the toolbox, but because of the bashplate design itself. I don't like the fact that the bashplate doesn't offer any protection to the water-pump. And from my experience, the water pump guard that OTR have won't save the pump in most circumstances. I would love to see a bashplate that protects the pump. Similar to what I have, only less ugly. :003: http://lh3.ggpht.com/_h_hIYKggHWM/Sz...6122009198.jpg |
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I won't go on about the waterpump issue (there is plenty of discussion already on the forum regarding that), suffice to say, I've ridden my Tenere over 50,000kms now - including the Rubicon Trail in California, countless deserts in the USA, and a small jaunt down to Dakar recently... dropped the bike God know's how many times on rock, ice, sand and everything else you can imagine riding over, and my pump has been fine - both with the stock bashplate (in the USA) and the OTR one (Dakar). Thorsten said in 10 years trading and dealing with XT660 customers, he's only seen two water pumps damaged (and those I imagine were after sliding down the road?) - he reckons the clutch cover is going to sustain damage before the water pump cover does? But I agree, it is one aspect that could be more neatly addressed - and I'm sure if you wanted, you could extend that edge of the OTR bashplate with an angled plate if you really wanted to protect the front edge of the waterpump? J x |
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And while mine was shot after a 10 meter slide down a trail, the others broke the pump by falling at a standstill. I recon it's all a matter of how unlucky you are regarding where and how you drop the Ten.
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Just for comparison- my guard cost me about �117, while the OEM one costs about �200 around here. |
That's fair enough - I must say looking at my photos recently, it does seem that I drop the bike on the left hand side more the right!
Thorsten is always interested in feedback, and he did say to me that it wouldn't be a problem to extend the lip of the bashplate to offer more protection to the waterpump, but like you, he is aware of the aesthetic appeal of such a mod. I'll pass your concerns on to him, and perhaps he will consider a revision in the future... J xx |
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Sadly my life does not currently require me to carry such a toolbox. Maybe when the kids fledge but for now I am not interested. Seems to me that opening down rather than up is a sound idea though. |
Maybe a good idea to have a toolbox that you can easily take off/put on.
I wouldn't like to have one all the time, but it can be usefull for the longer trips. |
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I would buy one that worked well, doesn't foul on anything (exhaust) and you can get the tools out of easy enough. Seems to me that this design would work very well.
My only question is - Does the OTR bash plate still fit the genuine main stand. I'm more likely to oil my chain easier than I am to do any serious offroading. |
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Im getting curious, are there any changes?
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