I got me a new bike !
 

well, almost.



I took a bouncy, no-so-focused Tenere into the shop, and came home on a R6. I'm really not sure how the hell people ride these things, you can see bu99er all in the morrors (unless you like your elbows), you need to break your neckin order to tilt it far enough back to be able to see, and the pipe, whoooooaaaaa I've never had such a dire need to wear plugs in the town as I did for the mile and a half to the dealers and back. In short I think them bikes are bl00dy awful. :llorando[1]:

So, come teatime I headed back out on the shop to collect my newly modified Tenere. I had the Hyperpro front spring set fitted (along with a few cosmetic warrenty jobs) and what a difference. The guys set it up as per the setup instructions that came with it and I really can't believe what a total change it has made. The bike is so focused, it corners with much much more purpose, it rides smoother (probably due to the fact it doesn't lurch under braking and acceleration), braking is more controlled and much more predictable - even with Twinduro's on in biblical rain.

I know JMo's advice a while ago to someone was do the suspension. Well it totally transforms the bike, for the �180 for a spring set you can't go wrong.


Can't wait for the rear spring to arrive, then we'll see what changes then....

Nice one, would love to do something like that to my XTR at the moment but then i go out on the real back roads and thing na no need. :dontknow:

Darren, did they give you your old springs back? If so can you do some measuring for me please? o.d and i.d of top and bottom of the fork springs?
ps..pipe parts came today ;)

Be interested in some offroad feedback on these springs, if you do take it offroad...

I'm going to collect these today - I'll get the measurments for you no worries.

I'm waiting with baited breath regarding the 'project'.


They do make a huge difference on the TTR (got 'em in there already), but yes I'll let you know what a difference it makes.

One of the main drivers for the upgrades is the plans over the next 18 months (Portugal & Africa), these springs are a lower cost improvment (low cost than WP forks & Ohlins etc rear), that I wanted to try out. In a similar way to what JMo did, but on a much more modest budget and with a different focus - overland travel rather than a dessert raid! (Jelly, Trifle or ice cream - you choose)

Given the feedback from the front of the bike, I get the impression that the front will be less likely to wash out in the mud.

There are a couple of points to make, that maybe someobne could try out to see if this is the srpings, or just the whole change in setup.

• The Tenere uses a 5 weight oil in the front, Hyperpro supply a 15.
• The pre-load is turned right back, so the adjusters are level with the top of the forks.
• The forks are lifted through the yoke by 10mm

The bike doesn't feel any lower at the front, and I can only assume there is less static sag, there is certainly less dynamic sag thats for sure (I need to adjust my headlight level too!), so this is probably the reason for the hight adjustment.

You do get an instruction book that tells you how to setup your suspension for a long list of 'faults' with the handling - I'll see if I can scan this in (when it dries) and post it as it will help others to adjust thier setups to compensate for any little issues.

For refference, my rear pre-load is one click tighter than default.

Very nice, great result. Looking forward to the off road results with your new set up.

I found similar results doing my XTX, 15W oil, more preload for the springs with the spacer kit I make, then position the forks 10mm through the triple clamps. Makes for a better handeling front end.

Interestingly, there is already a 50mm spacer in the Tenere forks, and the Hyperpro setup has it removed. Only found out when I picked up the old springs earlier today.

Lifetime warrenty on the Hyperpro's too.

The springs are the same dimensions top and bottom - :

o/d - 36.03 mm
i/d - 26.21 mm

These were taken at around 18c, so I magine the actual measurements at 0c would be 36mm and 26mm. Spring daimeter is 5mm

Thanks mate, sorry I missed them.

Hi GULG

Do you happen to know the specification of the Hyperpro springs, compared with OE?

Do you mean the setup specs, or the spring specs ?

The setup specs are in a previous post, but the spring specs I have no idea, being progressive they will taper along the length, but from what to waht I have no idea!

I've put a few miles on the bike since, and I have to say it's very nice. It feels very firm and planted on the road/gravel (not tried any mud yet, actually there is no mud just ice!), but you can still run over rough stuff (pot holes are a popular choice up here for road coverings...) and you get the same impact absorbtion as the OE springs.

Cornering is fantastic, the TCK's run pretty well right up to the edge, although you do get a bit of skip due to the gaps in tread patters.

One small problem. To the west of where I am ther eis alot of marsh land with rather strange bridges. These aren't the normal hump backed brideg but two ramps and a flat top, always single carridgeway roads. If you ride over the top of these the whole bike leaves the ground!!! To keep controll I've found I need to dab the front brake just before leaving the 'top' of the bridge. It's the same on some flat topped speed bumps, even at 30mph....

I've not tried the bike loaded up, but I'm hoping this is where I'll see the real advantage.

One thing that is very noticable, the EO springs have a huge ammount of statick sagg, probably about an inch difference between the HyperPro's and the OE springs.

Thanks GULG

It was the actual spring spec I was wondering about, but I'd also overlooked the fact that the Hyperpros are progressive.

Sounds like you're enjoying them!

I've been doing a few little upgrades of late, all of them with a purpose, as opposed to just a bit of bling. Actually, thinking this through, I've done bl00dy loads!!

Gulgotech Side Stand Extension
Centrestand
Driving lights on Gulgotech brackets
Gulgotech GPS extention bracket
Starcom1 Digital (now removed and up for sale)
GS1200 Rear Rack, on Gulgotech removable mount (so it fits into the existing holes for the OE topbox)
PivotPegz
Gulgotech frame protectors
Scottoiler
12v Power outlet (16a DIN)
Oxford Heated grips
RAM Camera Mount
OE Handguards
HyperPro Front & Rear Upgrade
DNA Stage 2 Air Filter & Cover
PowerCommander - V (supplied with maps from PowerTech - Nice chap!)
Touratech Pannier Frame
38l Touratech Zega Pro's
Tuareg Handlebar bag
OE Engine Bars
Touratech bottle holders, on Gulgotech adapters to fit to rear hangers (removable)

ASV 'unbreakable' Levers....... coming soon.


Gosh! I wonder if I add up all the time and money if it will freak me...

Probably best not to mate, these bikes are meant to be cheap and affordable!

That's quite a list fella! I try not to think of what has gone on with mine, but things are always in progress. I just can't leave bikes alone!

Well I laughed.

As for the rest, I'm sticking my fingers in my ears and closing my eyes, given I bought the Ten as a reliable day-to-day bike *not* to be tinkered with (tripletom will verify that I've got plenty of other bikes for that!). Must resist temptation.

I haven't touched the XJR, honest, apart from a Puig screen.... but then it's just a toy really.

Better late than never, but at least someones awake!:030:

Pivot pegz? how are they?

I read a lot of different reviews.


I'm thinking of getting those before holiday.
Most of my mileage is done onroad, so i'm not sure whether it will make a difference.


PS) i also got a nice list of mods, but im still expanding :D:
TT Spoiler
OTR bashplate (maybe the one with toolbox)
SW-motech topcase
Pivot pegz (maybe)
Spring upgrade
Airfilter/box upgrade (maybe)
LED lights (maybe)
Handlebar risers

I have a pair of the cheapo �20ish wide pegs from Ebay and PivotPegz. I tried them both on the TTR for off-road stuff and the PivotPegz have the edge, much more comfortable over distance. The PivotPegz are 4 times (plus some) the price of the Ebay ones, I'm not sure they are 5 times better.

The ebay ones are cheap, they haven't got the best finish and they will corrode, but they are cheap and they do the job pretty much the same as the PivotPegs do.

Having tested both sets out off-road, I put the PivotPegz on the Tenere and the Ebay ones on the TTR (they are the same fitting) mainly beacuse the PivotPegz are much better quality and are less likely to corrode. I'm not concerned what the ebay ones look like, they are on a dirt bike!

Performance wise, when you are standing up all day then the PivotPegz have the edge, you keep full control but you can move your feet around.

In my opinion, it's a question of money, both sets will do pretty much the same job to most people, in a more off-road environment the PivotPegz are probably worth the extra, for a more road orientated environment, the ebay ones are just as good, but lack quality.

I have a set of Pivot Pegz. Very well engineered and comfy to ride with. Whilst I've not ridden off road with them, I've ridden plenty of off road with conventional pegs and I'd say these will be an improvement.

Got mine from here - these fit the Ten!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk:80/ws/eBayISAP...EOIBSA:GB:1123

Just working on similar quality brake and gear levers..

Ok, thanks.

Touratech also got the touring pegs, you need adapters (�50,5) + the pegs themselves (�85,5). The total is �131.
The pivotpegz are �153,47.

I'll have to think about it

Ah, I can help you there....... (assuming you mean brake and clutch)

http://www.xt660.com/showthread.php?...ght=tart+parts


I had a look around at the levers at the dealers earlier this week. There were a load of them, but none came close to the quality of the ASV's. There is no vertical movement in the pivot joints, they really are very well put together.

So I ordered a set!

That's a craking price for the PivotPegz BTW. At that price I'd choose them over the cheapo Ebay ones.

GULG - No I'm talking foot operated, as I'll get some WR levers although these are rather nice. Had some Wunderlich on the BMW and Pazzo's on the track bike.. All very nice..

As for the Pivit Pegz, Nelis take a look at Race Spec http://www.racespec.co.uk/acatalog/index.html

Never mind Touratech and their silly prices..

The TT ones won't cost me any delivery prices as i just order them at the dealer.

I will order a set before Holiday, somewhere around may/june

are they wider than standard ones?

GULG, is this not a trade off of having thicker oil in the forks. The 15 you are using is literally 3 times thicker than the original 5.

Im sure you already know but the viscosity is measured by timing a measured amount of oil through a standard orifice. The same must apply through the orifices etc in your forks and from what you say it appears that your forks cannot recover (extend) quick enough to keep the wheel on the deck.

I always found that the thicker oil was great on road but crap off road.

Just a thought.

Unless you are loaded get the ebay Peg's they make a huge difference and mine only cost about $30 USD delivered to the uk they fit straight on they look great and are like double the width of oe pegs.

I am sure the Pivots are good pegs for around �100 but �150 plus to Touracrap that is just a joke like their front fenders.

Arrived today......


OOooohhhoooo never mind the size, feel the quality :love10:

Can you post the link ?

There are two sets on ebay at the momment (09/02/10);


Here for �22.50



Or here for �9.90 +P&P

As long as you purchase pegs for Yamaha YZ 80, 125, 250, 500 or WR 200, 500 or TTR600/TTR600E then they fit the Tenere without any need for adapters or modification.

but these can't pivot, and thats just what i was looking for