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bexman 27-10-09 10:29

Touratech Handguards - Vibrating
 
Morning chaps

Has anyone fitted the Touratech handguards to a Tenere yet? I fitted them on the weekend and they supply new bar ends but yesterday I noticed the handlebars vibrating at 40mph, the only thing I can think of is the Touratech bar ends are not heavy enough to replace the Yam stock bar ends and its causing issues.

Nelis 27-10-09 11:53

I just ordered the handguards, hope to get them tomorrow.

stoo24 27-10-09 13:16

I have had the Touratech jobs fitted for 4000 miles. Haven't noticed any difference in the vibrations before and after. The end weights aren't as weighty so there may be a little difference but not discernible to me and I'm not a big ham fisted type. The original end weights are a bit hideous though, so losing them is a good step and narrows the bike by about three feet!

jimthebrit 27-10-09 17:19

i put on my handguards before i got too used to the weights, I dont have any problems and without these ridiculous lumps on the end i can get the bike in and out without having to move cars to allow for the width.

Cheers

Jim

Nelis 27-10-09 21:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimthebrit (Post 110035)
without these ridiculous lumps on the end i can get the bike in and out without having to move cars to allow for the width.

That's exactly why i bought them, i have less then 1 inch left on both sides when i try to get out of our garden.
Then i have a 90 degree turn to the right, wich takes me 3 times to get thru.

I ordered blue ones with yellow spoilers.
Also ordered a 12v socket from TT.

Can't wait to put them on.

Stumpy 27-10-09 23:39

I've had them for nearly a year now. They do vibrate a wee bit more than with the standard bar ends. if you do a search I'm sure someone on the site has done a wee mod to use the handguards and the origional bar ends

deiaccord 28-10-09 11:21

I had some cheap Venom handguards without the bar ends for some while and was fairly happy with them. I them off for summer (to keep my hands cool in the heat) and put the bar-ends on and it did make some difference for comfort.
I'm now running KTM handguards with the bar ends on and am very happy with that. Not had any real problems when filting or noticed any difference there. If it's that close squeezing through to gaps then then that's pretty much stationary traffic anyway so you can kind of wiggle the bars through anyway (turn one way, go forwand a few inches, lean and turn to get the other side through)

tripletom 28-10-09 11:33

Venom's crash well-

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l2...s/IMG_3133.jpg

I noticed more vibes after fitting them as I removed the OE bar end weights, but as the bike has done more miles it's softened and the vibes are less noticeable.

Lairyboy 28-10-09 13:24

I fitted the Touratech ones with the bar ends they supplied as soon as I got the bike so I can't remember if they are much worse or not. Have to say though, I've done about 4,000 miles so far over all sorts of trails and tarmac, including several off-road 'offs' and the guards have been fine......anyway, the vibration keeps my hands warm in the winter:045:

Brewers Whoop 28-10-09 13:40

I've got the OE bar end weights fitted with TT handguards, as I found the vibration with the much lighter TT bar end thingies to be intrusive. A couple of washers fill out the gap, and also prevent such unpleasantness as the throttle sticking wide open.

To be honest, I wish I hadn't bought the TT handguards. I was after weather protection more than crash protection, and I think the KTM handguards described in other threads - which fit with very little in the way of modification - provide better weather protection for a lot less money.

bexman 28-10-09 14:01

Actually I've already spoken to TT and explained the problem so I'm very tempted to send them back to them and buy the KTM hand guards. The vibration has taken the smooth ride of the tenere away for me

Stumpy 28-10-09 14:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brewers Whoop (Post 110180)
I've got the OE bar end weights fitted with TT handguards, as I found the vibration with the much lighter TT bar end thingies to be intrusive. A couple of washers fill out the gap, and also prevent such unpleasantness as the throttle sticking wide open.

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do you happen to have a pic at all I quite fancy doing this

deiaccord 28-10-09 14:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brewers Whoop (Post 110180)
I've got the OE bar end weights fitted with TT handguards, as I found the vibration with the much lighter TT bar end thingies to be intrusive. A couple of washers fill out the gap, and also prevent such unpleasantness as the throttle sticking wide open.

To be honest, I wish I hadn't bought the TT handguards. I was after weather protection more than crash protection, and I think the KTM handguards described in other threads - which fit with very little in the way of modification - provide better weather protection for a lot less money.

To modify get the KTM handguards to fit you need to chop a bit off the right hand (throttle) guard to fit around the brake cylinder. You'll also need some 16mm washers to pad between the throttle grip and the bar-end to stop the throttle sticking if you don't want to cut back the grips (eg you have oxford grips).

In case anyone finds its useful I could not initially figure out where to get the washers from - I was helped out by my neighbour who kindly sourced some from his work but you want something like the below, basicaly a 16mm washer to fit over the M16 bolt size on the barend. I used 2 on the throttle side and one of the left hand site so my grips were not squashed in as much.

https://secure.demonweb.co.uk/earls1...er_washers.jpg
https://secure.demonweb.co.uk/earls1...products_id=25
http://www.bitzforbikes.co.uk/-ref-12149-241.html

Disclaimer: I have nothing to do with these sites and these are examples only, I have not used these myself to confirm the size against what I'm currently using.

Tony660x 28-10-09 15:07

Here you go, KTM handguards fitted complete with Oxford heated grips. You can clearly see the bit you need to chop away. Hope this helps.

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...x/100_1819.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...x/100_1818.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/g...x/100_1820.jpg

bexman 28-10-09 15:15

Those KTM hand guards are the definite answer, they look as if they will give a lot more weather protection too. I'm going to call TT now and ask for a refund! Wish me luck!

Tony660x 28-10-09 15:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by bexman (Post 110196)
Those KTM hand guards are the definite answer, they look as if they will give a lot more weather protection too. I'm going to call TT now and ask for a refund! Wish me luck!

I wish you luck! They do offer a great deal of weather protection, although I did not fit these myself they are fantastic and were my handguard of choice. They have not dissapointed me in any way.

bexman 28-10-09 15:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony660z (Post 110198)
I wish you luck! They do offer a great deal of weather protection, although I did not fit these myself they are fantastic and were my handguard of choice. They have not dissapointed me in any way.

Ah right! Do you mind me asking who fitted them for you? I'd be interested in somebody taking the hassle out of fitting them especially if they have to be trimmed!

Tony660x 28-10-09 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by bexman (Post 110200)
Ah right! Do you mind me asking who fitted them for you? I'd be interested in somebody taking the hassle out of fitting them especially if they have to be trimmed!

The previous owner fitted them but did make a point in saying they needed to be spaced to stop the throttle sticking. He also said the handlebar cross bar brace brackets needed reversing to give enough clearance on the brackets (you can see that in the first picture I posted). He did an excellent job.

deiaccord 28-10-09 16:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony660z (Post 110203)
The previous owner fitted them but did make a point in saying they needed to be spaced to stop the throttle sticking. He also said the handlebar cross bar brace brackets needed reversing to give enough clearance on the brackets (you can see that in the first picture I posted). He did an excellent job.

I would agree he did an excellent job. I can't even see at first glance where he trimmed the guard to clear the brake cylinder! I did not need to move my cross-bar brace however.

bexman 29-10-09 10:12

I removed the TT hand guards last night and this mornings ride was vibration free! Problem solved, have spoken to Touratech and they are discussing it with the 'German Engineers' so will wait and see. I know they can be modified but with the wind deflectors they cost �120 and Im not prepared to go chopping them up to get the stock bar ends to work, for that price I expect them to work out of the box. Unless they come up with a alternative fix they'll be going back and I'll buy the KTM guards (I'm happy to have to trim these slightly for �45!)

jimthebrit 29-10-09 15:15

IMO them KTM guards dont look like they will offer anymore protection than TT with the spoiler on them. I agree with the vibe thing, and would prefer a nice neat fix. but i am sorry if i offend anyone here, i dont want to have my hand guards and then them bar weights sticking out, it looks horrible. I will end up putting a set of pro taper bars on eventually which should dampen the vibes.

Cheers

Jim

Brewers Whoop 31-10-09 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stumpy (Post 110185)
do you happen to have a pic at all I quite fancy doing this

Sorry it's been a while Stumpy. It's dead simple, as I hope the photos below show. Washer is a sump plug crush washer off my old 1100GS!
http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...dwasher002.jpg


http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...dwasher001.jpg



http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...dwasher003.jpg



http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...dwasher004.jpg

theclowncrusty 31-10-09 14:23

Here is a picture of my KTM guards fitted. Looking at the pictures in the earlier post your man has done it differently. His inner brackets are between the master cylinder and the cross bar, while mine is the other way around. Your way means you dont have to trim as much off the throttle side guard to go around the brake master cylinder, a slightly better looking solution i will admit. I have found the guards a great improvment in wind protection and should work well with the Hotgrips in the winter to keep my fingers toastie.... http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...y/DSCN3796.jpg

Stumpy 31-10-09 16:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brewers Whoop (Post 110485)
Sorry it's been a while Stumpy. It's dead simple, as I hope the photos below show. Washer is a sump plug crush washer off my old 1100GS!

Cheers chap I think I'll try that

Many Thanks

Stumpy

uncle ricky 02-11-09 16:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brewers Whoop (Post 110485)
Sorry it's been a while Stumpy. It's dead simple, as I hope the photos below show. Washer is a sump plug crush washer off my old 1100GS!
http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...dwasher002.jpg


http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...dwasher001.jpg



http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...dwasher003.jpg



http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/x...dwasher004.jpg


Were did you get your ASV Levers from and what model bike ones fit the Tenere ?.

I have looking at the hand guards that have been fitted to the Tenere, and I would be a bit worried that if the hand guard moved up on a fall and the front brake lever was on too tight that it could possibley break the master cylinder bolt off. It looks like the hand guard is touching that hose and there is not movement.

So if I did fit that sort of hand guard I would losen my front brake lever a small amount so it would move up/down on a fall.

tripletom 02-11-09 16:51

When I got knocked off in May my front lever banana'd rather than snapped any part Ricky. After a visit from Mr Bosch and his 4 1/2" cutting disc it stopped being a problem.

deiaccord 02-11-09 17:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncle ricky (Post 110682)
I have looking at the hand guards that have been fitted to the Tenere, and I would be a bit worried that if the hand guard moved up on a fall and the front brake lever was on too tight that it could possibley break the master cylinder bolt off. It looks like the hand guard is touching that hose and there is not movement.

So if I did fit that sort of hand guard I would losen my front brake lever a small amount so it would move up/down on a fall.

I suppose it's possible but wouldo it not be more likely that the plastic guard would break before the harder metal brake cylinder?

When I had the venoms fitted and had a crash the guards swiveled up on me and the cylinder was knocked up a bit but was not damaged. That was with aluminium bracing so something like the KTM guards should be fine.

bexman 03-11-09 13:58

I've also discovered Barkbusters do Tenere handguards and they do look pretty substantial, but they also supply new bar ends. So I have emailed them to ask for the weight of the bar ends they supply.

Has anybody fitted these barkbuster handguards?

banksy 03-11-09 15:56

No, but i see that Adventure Spec stock them so PM Wonky he will be able to find out...

bexman 03-11-09 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by banksy (Post 110763)
No, but i see that Adventure Spec stock them so PM Wonky he will be able to find out...

Cool, will do does he work for them?

Brewers Whoop 03-11-09 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncle ricky (Post 110682)
Were did you get your ASV Levers from and what model bike ones fit the Tenere ?.

I bought the ASV levers from JMo; I think she put up the part numbers in one of her posts - I'll see if I can dig it up.

josephau 04-11-09 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by bexman (Post 110756)
I've also discovered Barkbusters do Tenere handguards and they do look pretty substantial, but they also supply new bar ends. So I have emailed them to ask for the weight of the bar ends they supply.

Has anybody fitted these barkbuster handguards?

Not personally, but it looks interesting: http://www.adventure-spec.com/shop/b.../prod_197.html

It looks like it comes with a barend weight that is 'inside' the handguard. The size is I believe larger than TT's but smaller than stock. IT's still rather substantial to me. In addition, the deflector itself is wide and it seems it takes into account of the difference in length between the levers and the guards. Plus it's aluminum on the side. The only question is will it hit the windscreen on full turns.

bexman 06-11-09 13:22

Does anybody have an alternative number for anybody at Aventure spec? No reply to email and no answer on the phone!

uncle ricky 06-11-09 13:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by bexman (Post 110994)
Does anybody have an alternative number for anybody at Aventure spec? No reply to email and no answer on the phone!

They may be at the dirtbike show

bexman 06-11-09 13:46

Manythanks, just checked and they are an exhibitor there. That explains everything!

Nelis 06-11-09 16:40

I just got my handguards, but no time to put them on.
Sunday i will get Hotgrips, so then i will put them on.

Right now i got the Yamaha handquards (without spoiler).

bexman 06-11-09 17:02

did you buy the Barkbusters Nelis? How long did they take to arrive?

Nelis 06-11-09 21:46

I got TT guards because i didn't want to mess with weights and cutting them.
It took them 2 weeks to arrive at my dealer.

I'm not sure why it took so long, but i'm not in a hurry.
The dealer even took some fog lights of the Limited edition to spare me another few weeks of waiting.

Nelis 08-11-09 08:10

I just got an idea:
Isn't it possible that you have less vibrations when using the rubber (oxford) grips instead of the standard hard plastic grips?

I think that the rubber will also absorb some of the vibes.


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