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hombacher 14-10-09 17:00

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Originally Posted by josephau (Post 108574)
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Question: is the stock rear Showa shock with a reservoir? Otherwise what's that cylindrical thing next to the spring?


Sachs, I think I read Sachs, once I have seen it. It is the resevoir or piggy back if it's flanged directly to the damper body.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 14-10-09 18:45

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Originally Posted by josephau (Post 108574)
So GULP, are you saying even if I give the hyperpro rear to a dealer to install they may not be able to if they don't have the right tool?

Thats pretty much it. The spring coils are close together, and it needs to be compressed until they are just about touching, so the normal automotive spring compressor doesn't work as the 'fingers' are too fat to fit between the coils. It needs a more specialised tool

There is an option of taking the unit out and going to an engineering company who might have more serious equipment, that's the hassel factor for me, would have been OK in the summer as I've the other bike, maybe something for next year ???

It's not impossible, it's just something I can't get doen locally here in Northern England - check with your dealers, they may be able to do it.

jimthebrit 14-10-09 20:57

I had the same problem when i changed my rear spring. I put Hyperpro front and rear. The fronts were a doddle just be sure to loose the caps before you remove from the clamps as other wise you may be tempted to hold in a vice and this will damage the tubes. real easy to do once the front shock is off, Take off the cap remove the springs and spacers. Allow all of the old oil out and pump the shock a few times to assist in getting old oil out. Put in new oil new spring and no spacer and bobs your mothers brother, Done.

The back i had to go to a local specialist for this, took him 5 minutes and cost me a tenner. I went to the local garage to see if they could help but the best he could come up with was use loads of jubilee clips and close it up that way.

Big diffrence in the bike with the new springs, gives me a lot more confidence and feedback in the corners now.

cheers

Jim

fozzy17 14-10-09 21:10

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Originally Posted by hombacher (Post 108576)
Don't know if this is something for you: "Oktoberfest" 20% off (link) to all Wilbers products.
Also I don't know if they have a real shop to visit. But their address seems to be located near Frankfurt.

can you mail them to see if they can do a zt660 group buy, i would be up for front springs and rear shock if the price is right... tenere that is

JMo 14-10-09 21:52

giggity giggity google!
 
As Josephau says, you can get both ends from Ohlins:

http://www.ohlins.com/Product-search...nere+2008-2009

Although Touratech are usually robbers, their price for the Ohlins rear shock is actually the rrp - that is �571 and some pennies... not cheap, but having one myself, I can vouch for the quality, oh yes... Likewise I'm sure their front springs are very good too?

The hyperpro set up (and wilbers) could well be a good alternative of course - all I would say is that if you don't immediately feel confident to strip the forks and fit the springs yourself (and you'll know if you are) - then sending the forks to a suspension specialist is certainly worth the few extra quid - that way you can tell them the weight of the bike and you/luggage etc and they can set the oil level (and possibly even alter the valving) to suit you...

The shock is a piece of p!ss to fit yourself, and is an instant improvement...

Mark Hammond Racing is the UK distributor for Ohlins off-road stuff in the UK, and by all accounts he is a nice guy with a quick turn around...

01249 721001

xxx

josephau 16-10-09 22:41

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Originally Posted by fozzy17 (Post 108614)
can you mail them to see if they can do a zt660 group buy, i would be up for front springs and rear shock if the price is right... tenere that is

Thanks to Hombacher, I called the guy to inquire about the deal. Until end of this month, they are in fact offering 20% off of all Wilbers products. I asked if he would give further discount for an order of say 5 sets of whatever, be they the rear, the fork springs, or both, he would offer 5% more discount on top of the 20%, ie a total of 25% off. He would need the weight data/riding style info in order to tune the suspensions. The delivery time would take about two weeks.

Since I'm unlikely going to do it because I will be traveling a lot in the next months, I suggest one of you in the UK to organize a group order, make the necessary shipment arrangements, and provide the needed data to:

MOT-TEI Motorradteile
Harald Ro�bach
Schwesternstrasse 27
D-63110 Rodgau-J�gesheim
Tel.: 06106 / 64 96 72
Fax : 06106 / 28 66 70
Mail: info@mot-tei.de
Umsatzsteuer-ID: DE219116042

Harald is the person I spoke to, but I highly recommend you to go over the detas with him again to make sure by sending him an email in English (they all know some English). Alternatively, of course, you can just deal individually with him but get 20%, not 25%, off. Just remember the discount lasts only till end of this month.

Good luck.

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 19-10-09 11:41

Back to the Hyperpro rear spring
 
I've found a spring compressor that might just do the trick, not too expensive at �40!!! but certainly cheaper than �500 for the Ohmygodtheseareexpensivelhins.....


Deffo going to give these a go now.

tripletom 19-10-09 11:48

To anyone who had removed the OE springs could you post up the o/d and i/d of the shock spring at both ends. o/d and i/d of fork springs at both ends.
Pretty please?
Ta

mac-cos 19-10-09 23:15

If you just replace the springs with stiffer ones then its still might be possible for the rear to underdamped especially if its worn out and cant control the stock spring. The front can be "adjusted" with different weight oil but if the bushings are worn then its not going to be that much help. I wore out the front forks on a FZR1000 and no amount of oil changes were going bring the damping control back, what they needed was a rebuild but I sold it on and someone kindly stole it from the new owners gaff before they found out how shocking (no pun intended) the front end was.

n0ct0 19-10-09 23:33

I agree. The rear feels underdamped as it is with me onboard, so it's not going to improve just with a higher rate spring.

I had the same problem with my old FZ6 and ended up with the Ohlin$$$$ shock on. So I'll be putting that on eBay (kept it when I sold the bike) and getting a Wilbers or Ohlins shock.


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