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busasean 27-10-09 22:59

well, up to 15,000 miles (24,000 kms) and not a single hitch. going to do the oil and filter this sat. quite impressed now. still on original front pads as well.....

busasean 05-12-09 07:55

ah, I spoke too soon....... 16500 miles and a few hiccups. - had the chain jump off the rear sprocket on the way home a couple of weeks ago - the chain is knackered, the inside of the swingarm and the sprocket carrier are gouged so its been back to the dealer for new chain and sprockets, new sprocket studs and nuts, the inside of the swinarm has been touched in with paint on the damage and the sprocket carrier has been cleaned up and repainted. also had the rear tyre replaced.

first time I've had a chain come off a bike, although I knew the chain needed adjusting, I didnt think it was excessively loose.- something to watch in the future I suppose.

the panniers have been replaced under warranty due to the hinge pins falling out, also the top box lock has been changed under a service bulletin due to the fact it (and the pannier locks) was getting harder and harder to unlock.
the cush drive has also been replaced under warranty as it had almost melted!!!!!

other than that its fine................

Sean

scottnet 05-12-09 14:42

Tappets
 
I have checked tappet clearance on three Tenere's all done over 25,000 miles. They are all still in spec

zOU 06-12-09 17:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by busasean (Post 113484)
the panniers have been replaced under warranty due to the hinge pins falling out, also the top box lock has been changed under a service bulletin due to the fact it (and the pannier locks) was getting harder and harder to unlock.

would you have a copy of the service bulletin ?

busasean 06-12-09 19:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by zOU (Post 113532)
would you have a copy of the service bulletin ?

I dont, but I will be going down to the dealers on sat - do you want me to see if I can get a copy?

zOU 06-12-09 22:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by busasean (Post 113546)
I dont, but I will be going down to the dealers on sat - do you want me to see if I can get a copy?

it would be fantastic ;)

I've been waiting on my left sidecase for 2 month now, apparently the importer can't get them (or engine gards...).

SO I may take the opportunity to get the RHS replaced too :p

Niek 07-12-09 15:38

Did 36.000 km on the Tenere. No real problems. Exhaust valves needed adjusting at 20.000km en I am already on the 4th cain/sprocket set, they al got a tight spot in it. Now using 15/44 combination to see if that fixes the problem.

busasean 02-02-10 06:51

just back from the Elephant rally in Bavaria, carried out the 18,000 mile service at 17600 on last wednesday and fitted a set of TKC's. now at 19100 miles. the bike wouldnt start on the saturday morning even though it was turning over. we ended up trying to bump start it for just over 2 miles!!!! down the hill. after a while it ran but badly, then it just cleared itself and ran perfectly. I assumed it didnt like temperatures of minus 16. the next morning in mainz it wouldnt start again so i had to be towed by a GS1200A to the nearest garage where we stripped it diown to find no spark, once we dried and cleaned the coil it fired 1st time, so its off to the yamaha dealer later. other than the non starting it ran perfectly for 1500 miles fully loaded with a fat ******* on board at a steady 80 ish most of the time. TKC's are crap though........

Avo 02-02-10 09:43

Interesting thread. I struck a deal yesterday with my boss. Whilst I have a company car, I frequently have the joy of the dartford crossing, A12 and stuff. They are okay with me using my bike and paying me milage (at the same rate as the car..ie not as much as if I were using my own vehicle) - but as the XTZ seems very good on fuel it should be about okay. :001:




Anyway two Qs

What is this crank case breather mod? would it relate to my 2009 XTZ?:dontknow:

And the cush drive on mine (2600 miles) is pretty sloppy. :icon_frown: I'll do the Kev mod with some rubber pond liner.

steveD 02-02-10 10:14

Crank case breather on the 09 model is already the new design so no problems there. Us 08 boys want the 09 bit!

Definately do the cush drive mod as Kev describes, gets rid of any snatchiness.:computer:

tripletom 02-02-10 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by busasean (Post 118730)
just back from the Elephant rally in Bavaria, carried out the 18,000 mile service at 17600 on last wednesday and fitted a set of TKC's. now at 19100 miles. the bike wouldnt start on the saturday morning even though it was turning over. we ended up trying to bump start it for just over 2 miles!!!! down the hill. after a while it ran but badly, then it just cleared itself and ran perfectly. I assumed it didnt like temperatures of minus 16. the next morning in mainz it wouldnt start again so i had to be towed by a GS1200A to the nearest garage where we stripped it diown to find no spark, once we dried and cleaned the coil it fired 1st time, so its off to the yamaha dealer later. other than the non starting it ran perfectly for 1500 miles fully loaded with a fat ******* on board at a steady 80 ish most of the time. TKC's are crap though........

I heard from another Ten owner there that he had ice in the sidestand cut out switch, and that was preventing starting.
What don't you like about the TKCs?

busasean 05-02-10 09:38

TKC's really dont like the wet, are really really vague and the handling is bloody awfull.

busasean 10-03-10 23:09

hardly been using the bike due to weather and needing the pick up for work. hit 20,000 miles today (32,000 kms). the little ten is really suffering with corrosion, even though it is cleaned, polished and afc50'd weekly, not to mention being kept in a heated garage. the spokes and banjo bolts are rusty, the engine and fairing bolts are furred and rusty. I can only assume that the germans use something particularly evil on their roads....

stripped the forks and yokes off the bike before going to work this morning in order to regrease the head bearings as they didnt feel right. there was hardly any grease in there from new, also it seemed very dry - I presume the oil in the frame must generate sufficiant heat to dry out the grease. - its like new now.

still on the original front pads, and now back on the pirelli scorpian tyres. no other issues.......

maxwell123455 25-04-10 20:33

Just seen this one ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2007-YAMAHA-XT...item439ec8799d

54k miles on an xt engine should give you good hope that yours will last a good time. Allow the finish as youve mentioned isnt the best

busasean 09-05-10 01:14

up to 24,800 miles now..... serviced last weekend. oil, filters,plug, new front tyre, complete clean, stripping wheels and front and rear suspension and regreasing along with all calipers being stripped cleaned and regreased along with new front pads got the wheels booked in to be rebuilt under warranty along with the new fuel tank.

Today the ****ing regulator/rectifier burnt itself out leaving me stranded at the side of the road halfway through my I.A.M. test..... not at all impressed. guess this bike will be going at the end of the warranty period.....


Back to the

stoic bloke 09-05-10 02:16

GRRRR! this regulator fault is so easily cured and keeps cropping up COME ON YAMAHA! it's a weak link that needs sorting!

i know it's not good enough but if mine gives any grief i probably wont bother with the half assed 'fix' the dealers carry out i will be fitting a more reliable unit with decent terminals. the workings of the reg are fine, just a rubbish marginal connector

me and a few lads[5 xt's a R & 4 Z's] are going off the beaten track in portugal for a few weeks i'm taking a kawazaki reg [i have a few]to bodge in if we have to. though after such a repair a dealer may throw their hand up and walk away. i don't mind thought

all the best i hope your sorted soon

busasean 11-05-10 10:24

just off the phone to the Yamaha dealer - the whole loom is going to have to be replaced.....

warranty issues so far -
  • replaced cush drive rubbers twice - at 16,000 miles and again at 24,800 miles
  • replaced both panniers due to hinge pins falling out
  • fuel tank being replaced due to laquer peeling
  • spokes being replaced due to corrosion
  • new regulator/rectifier
  • new loom
poor in one year really........

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 11-05-10 11:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by busasean (Post 128321)
leaving me stranded at the side of the road halfway through my I.A.M. test.....

but did you pass ?

busasean 11-05-10 11:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gas_Up_Lets_Go (Post 128498)
but did you pass ?

never finished so no.... got the test rebooked for the 5th june.

66T 12-05-10 12:19

I wonder how many sets of cush drive rubbers Putnik replaced in his 63,000 km of what seems to be fairly hard use with a heavy load...

stuxtttr 12-05-10 13:13

I seem to be sufering the reg/rec issue now.

What happens if you just disconect it ??????

I did it just to see and the bike runs fine, only tried for a minute though.

So another unit can work ????

might get one from a scrap yard or borrow my ttr one

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 12-05-10 14:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by busasean (Post 128500)
never finished so no.... got the test rebooked for the 5th june.

It's a piece of p!$$

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuxtttr (Post 128588)
or borrow my ttr one

the TTR Regulator is rated at 350 watts (the bike only puts out 182 watts) , while the Tenere is closer to 280watts with the Regulator rated at 490watts (I think)

Your problem is most likely the connectors rather than the regulator/rectifier

uberthumper 12-05-10 15:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuxtttr (Post 128588)
I seem to be sufering the reg/rec issue now.

What happens if you just disconect it ??????

I did it just to see and the bike runs fine, only tried for a minute though.


Eventually, the battery will go flat and it will stop.

tripletom 20-05-10 12:09

My Ten should be going in to the dealers for new rear wheel bearings this weekend, and it's second replacement cush drive. Just shy of 14,000 on the clock.

uberthumper 20-05-10 12:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripletom (Post 129078)
My Ten should be going in to the dealers for new rear wheel bearings this weekend, and it's second replacement cush drive. Just shy of 14,000 on the clock.

Too many humpback bridges ;)

Joking aside I was somewhat surprised that yours were so obviously worn. Glad your dealer is being good about it. Given mine will hit that mileage before the end of the year I'll be keeping a close eye on anything I might need to get done before the warranty runs out next March.

tripletom 20-05-10 13:19

Yup, mid Dec is two years on it. I think it's more likely the seals started to go with all the salty ****e, despite my best efforts to keep it all lubed up. Hey ho. What was slightly worrying was that I couldn't find a replacement bearing when I had a quick look, you may be more lucky. NSK bearing, code 6203 DU

uberthumper 20-05-10 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripletom (Post 129081)
Yup, mid Dec is two years on it. I think it's more likely the seals started to go with all the salty ****e, despite my best efforts to keep it all lubed up. Hey ho. What was slightly worrying was that I couldn't find a replacement bearing when I had a quick look, you may be more lucky. NSK bearing, code 6203 DU


Try looking for a '6203 2RS' bearing from any supplier (FAG, SKF, etc).

'6203' just defines the dimensions of the bearing (17borex40odx12wide) and is common across suppliers

'DU' just seems to be NSK speak for a fully contact sealed bearing. More commonly known as '2RS' - for 'two rubber seals' ;)

The load ratings of the same size bearing should be close enough regardless of supplier.

Edited to add: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SKF-6203-2RS-S...item335ccacb91

tripletom 20-05-10 22:38

Aha, thanks for that. Hopefully it will be of use to someone.

busasean 16-07-10 18:50

passed the 30,000 miles today (48,000 kms) - its just over a yearold now, and its behaving itself again. I retook my I.A.M. test on it last week (and passed). also covered 1800 miles in 3 days including bushmills to hastings sat most of the way at an indicated 80mph and it never missed a beat. going to give it an oil and filter change and a proper clean this weekend.

busasean 31-07-10 19:23

well it looks like I spoke too soon, I was having problems with the bike not selecting gear so I spoke to the dealer and arranged to get the bike looked at on the Wednesday, the gear lever was very worn and had loads of play so a new lever was authorised under warranty and fitted today,....

I jumped on the bike put it into gear and pulled away to find it stuck in gear.....

JS Gedge have stripped the engine out of the bike and removed one a the covers to have broken gear dogs fall out, so it looks like the gearbox has broken up..... waiting for more info now......

enduro374 31-07-10 20:41

I had my BMW K1200S gearbox fail one week before the 2yr warranty expired.

The bearing that 5th gear sits on was knackered and this caused the gear to jump and bent the selector fork along with damaging the shaft. A new gearbox was fitted at a cost of ~ �2.5k courtesy of BMW. I now have an extended warranty.. So it happens on �12k bikes too and I recall early R1's were prone to gearbox failure.

To date my Ten' gearbox is just fine, but that's only done 2,5k miles and I think we know that in general they're fine. Unfortunately for you that doesn't help much, but if you've a high mileage engine and most of it's about to be replaced then that's a positive!

Sounds like your dealer has it on their 'To Do' list now then.

Good Luck.

photographicsafaris 07-08-10 14:59

Hiya please keep us posted as to what the outcome of this all is - are they replacing the whole gearbox, is there and subsidary damage as a result of the broken teeth elsewhere?

G

busasean 07-08-10 21:08

got the bike back today - the engine was taken out of the bike last saturday and completely stripped. 4th gear was broken into 4 pieces and the gear selector fork had a slight mark so that and the 4th gear were replaced under warranty. every park of the engine was checked to ensure there was no other damage, which there wasnt. The gear box is lovely now, really smooth and easy through the gears. going to give in a complete in depth clean and polish tomorrow and then it will be photographed and put up for sale.

gregor 12-08-10 10:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by busasean (Post 135179)
got the bike back today - the engine was taken out of the bike last saturday and completely stripped. 4th gear was broken into 4 pieces and the gear selector fork had a slight mark so that and the 4th gear were replaced under warranty. every park of the engine was checked to ensure there was no other damage, which there wasnt. The gear box is lovely now, really smooth and easy through the gears. going to give in a complete in depth clean and polish tomorrow and then it will be photographed and put up for sale.

Good to hear it's been fixed.

How do you rate JS Gedge?

Naturally I'm getting a little twitchy now my warranty is due to expire.

I've been fortunate with mine to date, suffering only the quick wear cush rubbers which is easier to fix myself than waste half a day visiting the Yam dealer.
The corrosion on the spokes and fixings is pretty disgraceful, as well as a daily bike I use it as a greenlaner so it'll never look in tip top condition so I live with that issue.

I wonder if Yamaha will continue to fix the rectifier failures out of warranty.I did treat mine with ACF 50, seal with silicon,strap the connector halves together with cable ties early on and don't fancy disturbing it now.

I've reached about 18000 miles and I reckon maybe a quarter of that has been off -road. I've ridden plenty of deep water,mud, sand and done 3 Long Distance Trials. I'm well impressed with how the bike has stood up to the punishment only replacing several chains, sprockets and rear brake pads. Far better than my old DRZ400 which went through brake pads, bearings, seals and cables in no time, drank oil and went pop around the 25000 mile mark, luckily after I'd sold it.

Back when the Ten came out it was priced as a budget bike pretty much.

If I was spending my money again I wouldn't get one for what Yamaha are asking nowadays.

busasean 12-08-10 12:24

I have to say I've had differences of opinion with Trevor Gedge in the past, but in fairness both Trevor and his staff have been absolutely 1st class with all the help and work carried out on the Tenere. He did me a good deal on the bike and the extras. cant fault them at all.

busasean 13-08-10 21:29

bike now sold.

Niek 24-02-11 14:29

I past the 75.000km mark. Engine starts to sip oil now (2L/10000km). I had the regulator problem, a short circuit in the fuel pump wiring and replaced the head stock bearing and need to replace them again. for the rest it is a good bike but unfortunately needs some engine work in the future.

Goldfinger 05-03-11 14:35

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Originally Posted by busasean (Post 135673)
bike now sold.

What have you replaced it with ?

Gas_Up_Lets_Go 05-03-11 15:54

We last saw Sean on Septemebr 3rd last year, I don't think he frequents us any more....


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